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Samgman said:

It looks like we Madden PC fans again have been left out of the Madden experience. No word yet from Peter or EAS about Madden PC and it doesn't look promising so far. I wonder if that will change...?

h-k616 said:

There isn't going to be a Madden for the PC this year. This was confirmed by an EA rep a long time ago. Peter Moore has dodged this issue on his blog most likely because he doesn't want to go another round with us and I don't blame him after the beating he took last year.

Although he would earn some respect if he'd just come out and say something like: "We're sorry that we couldn't deliver a Madden for the PC this year as promised, the economy tanked and we had to lay off a lot of people and cut back on our expenses."

Samgman said:

I've seen somthing in the Madden PC forums about an EA Rep confirming Madden PC not being released this year. Makes me wonder How an EA REP confirm this when Peter and Co. keep saying they can't talk about it until all their I's are dotted and T's are crossed?

If the rep is right then why couldn't Peter confirm it? And if the rep was wrong then why would they be allowed to make that statement?

Dewiel said:

Hey guys, while we do not have a PC sku for Madden NFL 10, that does not mean that we are giving up on the platform. In the end we want to ensure that we are putting out the best possible product and thus we are evaluating all of our options. As soon as we have more information to share, we'll make sure that everyone is made aware. Thanks again for your feedback.

Samgman said:

Dewiel,

Thanks for your reply. While Peter's statement, from a while ago, about Madden being back for PC for Madden NFL 10 did not turn out to be accurate, it's good to hear that EAS hasn't given up on the title. I understand that nothing has been finialized and that there is no information yet, hopefully we'll hear something before the end of the year.

While "evaluating all your options" I hope to see some community involvement. We can't be privy to every detail but there are those that would have some good ideas/suggestions to consider. Looking forward to hearing more when more is available.

aggiefan4life2 said:

This topic appears to be headed in the direction of PC gaming so I will detour it in another direction.

Peter Moore and company like to talk about how great the developer's forums are so I will provide feedback on the two forums that I frequently visit.

NCAA Football forums - I replied on a topic titled Wish list for NCAA Football 11.  I submitted my ideas and I have asked three different times for somebody to sticky this topic so that all visitors and people working on the game can see it.  Nobody has responded to this request.  It has been one week since I made the request.  I first addressed my concern to Raczilla.  I don't know who is in charge of the NCAA forums but they need to be fired immediately.  Don't even give them time to clean out their office.  Just throw their stuff out after them.  The person currently running the forums is completely worthless to EA Sports.  I do not have the names of people running the forums memorized so it is hard to know who to direct my request to.  The "helpful" documentation at the bottom of the screen show that moderation adminstration are the leaders for the forum.  This is extremely unhelpful.

forum.ea.com/.../235908.page

It just shows more proof that EA Sports and the NCAA Football team are not committed to listening to the gamers.  This is why the NCAA 10 sold 100,000 units less than in previous years.  We played NCAA Football 09 and we can tell a fresh paintjob when we see it.

The second forum that I have experience on is Tiger Woods.  The experience there was the complete opposite of the NCAA Football experience.  There is also a list of ideas floating around over there.  I posted ideas to that forum and asked for that list be stickied as well.  That request was granted in less than one day's time.   Much more pleasant experience than visiting the NCAA Football forums.

I realize that this may not be the appropriate place to post this but nobody is responding to requests on the NCAA football forums so I will bring it to this forum.  EA Sports can choose to fix the problem or they can continue to lose an additional 100,00 sales next year.  The gamers are speaking but EA Sports is not committed to listening.  

Joborule said:

I dig the theme of the commercials this year. Good choice in combining training camp with the Madden gamers.

raczilla said:

Aggie,

Where on the NCAA forums are you posting your question?  I have read through the most recent posts in the Q/A thread and have yet to see you post over there.  Are you certain you're posting in the right place?

-raczilla

aggiefan4life2 said:

Check the link that I provided.  I will provide it one more time.  I just followed it just now so I know that it works.  My posts are one page 9.  

forum.ea.com/.../235908.page

aggiefan4life2 said:

One final note

This is why I want this topic stickied.  If nobody posts on it for a day or two then you have to search through 5 or 6 pages of unrelated topics.  Again follow the link that I provided in the two previous posts.  

raczilla said:

Aggie,

Sorry I missed the link earlier.  I was on my way to the airport when I read the post.  Thanks for the link.  I went ahead and stickied it per your suggestion.  I'll chat with the team about some of their thoughts on the suggestions in the thread and see if we can get a dialogue there.  

We do appreciate the feedback, although I do have one request.  I think this kind of sentiment is best expressed without the suggestion of removing the folks who work on the game.  Disagreeing on a choice that was made or the direction of the game is fair, but I think we'll have a better discussion if we can do so without those sort of comments.  Make sense?

There are some good suggestions in the thread.  What would you like to hear about from the team in terms of some of the feedback fans have given?

LandoKiwi5 said:

Dewiel,

No matter how you word it, you can't convince us that EA cares about anyone that doesn't own a PS3 or 360.

I find it odd that 2K sports, that apparently gets beat by EA in sales every year, is releasing every popular game this year on every platform.  Even the PS2.  Yet, EA is going to try to tell us that the economy hit them harder than 2K?  I don't believe it.

All that's going to happen in the next few years is a sales shift from EA to 2K as the PC customers move on to a company that cares.

aggiefan4life2 said:

Raczilla,

My comment was not directed towards anybody working on the game.  My comment was about the person who was running the NCAA forums.  I know that some of your moderators are volunteers.  You as community manager need to know when one of your moderators isn't doing his/her job.  

This is the same as me shopping in your store and filing a complaint against a rude sales employee.  Nobody said that you have to agree with my point.  I have tried to go out of my way not to point fingers at people who work on the game.

Thank you for fixing the problem.

h-k616 said:

@ LandoKiwi5

2K Sports isn't releasing a PC version of NHL 2K10 which is strange because it would be the perfect opportunity to win over all the frustrated NHL fans who've been stuck with roster updates for years.

LandoKiwi5 said:

@h-k

You're right, I thought they were.  That's odd.  It's coming out on the PS2 for cryin out loud.

raczilla said:

Aggie,

Thanks again for the response.  With regard to moderators, it's true that we do have volunteer moderators who spend time helping on the forums.  They aren't actually representatives from EA, but fans who are looking to help out and contribute in the community.

We do have NCAA Football 10 dev team posters who are also active on the boards.  Then there are community managers such as myself and Dewiel who spend time talking to fans on the forums, social media sites, and in the blog comments.  

While we can't sticky every thread in the forums, that is something I can help with from time to time where it makes sense.  Feel free to PM me on the forums if you feel there's a need to sticky a thread or that something is being missed.

-raczilla

raczilla said:

LandoKiwi5,

We can all certainly understand frustration if a game you're anticipating doesn't make it to your preferred platform.  Dewiel replied because while we are in a transition when it comes to our plans for PC, we do want fans to know this is an area where we've committed a lot of resources to come up with a solution.

One example of how we've begun to evolve our PC strategy is Tiger Woods Online. In recent weeks many community members have been participating in a beta on tigerwoodsonline.ea.com , giving their feedback on our new direction for that product.  We also consulted PC community members at our Tiger Woods PGA TOUR community day back in March.  

I give this example because I think as we continue toward this new approach for PC, you'll see a lot of parallels between the changes we've made for Tiger and some of the other products.

It's never easy to wait and we appreciate your patience.  We know that there is a lot of value on the PC and that PC sports gamers are a rabid and dedicated community.  We're determined to give you guys the experience you deserve and I think you'll see that as we move forward.

Any chance you've been participating in the Tiger Woods Online beta?  If not you should definitely sign up and check it out.    

LandoKiwi5 said:

Allright raczilla,

Thanks for the reply.  I do have one plea though.  Use the Warcraft example.  I don't play WoW myself, but there are millions that do.  One of the reasons;  They can.

What I mean by that is a story of me and NHL 2006.

I had just gotten a new laptop for christmas a few months after that game came out.  My computer was top of the line, but still a laptop.  I couldn't really crack it open to upgrade.

The very next day I was at the game store when it opened to purchase NHL 2006.  When I got it home in anticipation of playing and loaded it into my system a huge disapointment surprised me.  NHL 2006 didn't work with my video card.  Even though my video card met all the required specifications, it wasn't a brand name that the game was looking for.  I was angry as hell and ended up eating the cost of the game due to the stores policy of not accepting a return.  My laptop was three months younger than the game.  I tried calling EA's "customer service" and was basically told that even though it should, my laptop wouldn't work with the game.  It needed a brand new "Invidia, or Atheon" video card.  Mine met the specifications, like I said, but was an Intel.  I did get a really spiffy looking coaster though.  Thanks for that EA, a fifty dollar coaster, wow...

Since then, I haven't given a rip about purchasing a PC game from EA.  I still have a laptop that is a January 2008 model.  I just don't trust any EA game will work with my system.  They  most likely won't and I can't get a desktop.

WoW works on just about any computer that has been made since the game came out.  Laptop or otherwise.  It doesn't look for a particular brand name when it loads onto a machine.  

EA has a nasty, stupid habit of making their games brand name sensitive and requiring a system that is only a month older than the game itself.  A bad idea.  EA can't expect it's customers to have to buy a new computer every year just to play Madden, or NHL.  EA also can't expect it's customers to have to upgrade their system every year for a game either, especially since the world is moving towards pretty much "un-upgradable" laptops.  

Like I asked.  Please follow the Warcraft business model when creating your games for the PC.  I think you will find your customer base will grow exponentially when the game becomes more accessible.

aggiefan4life2 said:

I asked for the thread to be stickied because I felt like that it needed to noticed by all who visit the NCAA Football forums.

The staff members need to know that this is what gamers want for NCAA Football 11.  This is an 11 month notice so it shouldn't be too hard to work on.  

Stats speak for themselves.  The thread in question went from having no responses/replies in 4 days to 7 comments made in 2 days after I sucessfully got this thread stickied.  The message is simple.  People want to tell the development team what they want changed in the future.

Another interesting stat is where the decrease in sales are from a year ago.  The 2009 version of this game sold 70,000 units in a period ranging from launch until a week later on the PS2 plaftform.  The 2010 version sold 20,000 units on the PS2 platform in the same time period.  EA Sports management needs to ask a few questions.

1.  Why did the PS2 gamers not migrate to the 360 platform?  Economic?  360/PS3 Game lacked key components that were already present in the PS2 versions.  For gamers who played 09 there was very little noticeable improvements made in the gameplay.  The menus and interface look prettier now.  That's it.  You can watch EA Sports shake its finger at you in the Season Showdown when you run up the score.  I can see this being necessary in online games but it doesn't add a whole to us who don't play online.  The point simply is that this isn't what the majority of gamers wanted.  The development team wasn't listening to the majority of the fans.  In many cases I feel like they did whatever they wanted with little regard for what the gamers wanted and now it is being reflected in the sales.  

You see, I don't work for the EA Sports owned websites.  These will only provide you with a point of view that makes you think that NCAA 10 was the greatest game ever made.  Bold prediction - It is not the greatest game ever made and it is doubtful that it will ever crack the Top 10.  EA Sports hates me because I educate myself about games ahead of time.  I have been buying the NCAA Football series ever since it first launch.  When it changes significantly it will be heavily publicized in multiple media outlets.  This year it was mainly the EA Sports media talking up the game so that should give you a clue about what the game will be like.  They will talk it up even if a new number is slapped on it and no changes are made to the core game.

The fact that the thread in question is up to 9 pages in length less than a month after launch should tell EA Sports that gamers wanted more.  Clearly everybody wasn't impressed with the game.  I told you before launch that it wouldn't sell and Raczilla asked why I was hating on the game.  

I will compliment Raczilla for the fast action on this issue.  I believe that this will benefit future editions of this game.  That is why I post on NCAA football sites and that is why I post here.  I want to see a bigger better game made.  Sometimes it takes multiple posts and requests but I can make it happen.  I don't give up real easily and that same attitude is reflected in my posts.

raczilla said:

LandoKiwi5,

That's a rough story and I think a good example of why a different model for EA SPORTS can be a good idea.  Again, that's why I bring up the Tiger Woods Online example.  It runs in your browser and doesn't have the strict requirements that are associated with some PC titles.

I hope you'll keep following along as we continue to push forward with our different approach on PC.  I think it's going to make for a better experience for a lot of fans.    

Samgman said:

I do not know what they will come up with for Madden PC. If they go with an online verison a la Tiger Woods Online my biggest concern is what will it offer and how much will EAS charge to offer it? When I bought Madden 08 PC I paid $40.00. I would rather pay a one time upfront fee like that for all of the features I am accustomed to. I wouldn't mind a yearly subscription of the same price. It will be interesting to see what develops.

Also maybe while "evaluating thier options" they could consider implementing a dynamic dna system like they use for their other titles into Madden PC. Consoles too. It would give the game some more realism by having the rosters updated weekly to reflect the current NFL season. When a player is hurt/put on IR his stats are reflected to show that or if he is traded/released the stats show that as well. Would something like that make it easier for the developers to keep up with all of the players/stats during a football season? How about as a bonus, if possible, along with the player updates there could also be stats for that weeks League Leaders?

And if "It's in the game" please make sure it's in the game. Helps with the realism.  

raczilla said:

Sam,

You have some good suggestions.  What does everyone else think when it comes to Madden PC?  Since there's an opportunity here to re-envision that experience, what are some things you'd like to see?

How about listing out 3 things you liked about Madden on the PC and 3 things you'd like to see improved?

Samgman said:

Thanks Raczilla.

For Madden PC I liked:

1. The game modes: Franchise, Training Camp etc.

2. The create-a-player, create-a-gamebook, create-a-team options.

3. The ability to adjust penalties, AI, etc. so I can customize my game.

Along wiith my previous suggestion about dynamic dna, I would like to see improved:

1. The sidelines and fans in the stadium. It doesn't make for a very realistic looking game when you have the majority of the fans all moving at the same time and in the same manner. Same with the players on the sidelines.

1a. Also have the head coaches represented more accurately. In Madden PC 08 Tom Coughlin of the Giants has his cap pulled down over his eyes and it doesn't even have the Giants logo on it. Seeing errors/glitches like that makes you feel that someone didn't care how the game looked when it was released.

2. The ability to challange a play AFTER viewing instant replay. This had never been able to be done in the Madden PC and it is allowed in a NFL game. Along with that the ability to pick what you want to challange, ie: the spot of the ball or if a player crossed the yard maker, etc. I don't know if it was computer AI or something else but I had an instnace where a receiver on an opposing team caught a ball but had one foot out of bounds. The comp called it completed. I challenged the play and it was upheld. Some tweaking here would help.

3. There used to be a sideline reporter who reported injuries. That was taken out. How about bringing that back and maybe adding an interview or two to help make it feel more authentic. Plus and updated player injury system. While some injured players can walk off on their own, seeing a player with a head injury get up and walk off doesn't seem very real.

Looking forward to seeing what the Madden eperience will be like for the PC.

Kael said:

Ive played Madden PC since Madden 2000 and was in online leagues from 2000-2005

The PC version has always been the best because you can customize it the most. Im still playing 08 regularly with user generated rosters that range from the current crop to 1967. You can fantasy draft from any of them make custom rosters, custom slider sets and put the files in email thumbstick whatever. The replay value is tremendous. Plus you guys finally got the gameplay right in 08 I played the 09 ps3 version on some one elses system and yeah it had atmosphere but the animations just seemed forced it lacked the tight control of PC.

Id like to see an updated verion of PC without all the gimmicks (see the stuff in the wii version) Focus on really realistic gameplay and just bring the graphics up to date and add some new annimations that arent forced. Make a gameplay setting that’s hard but without the hyper speed ridiculousness of all madden. As for as system requirements go thats what the video\audio settings are for any PC gamer especially one that picks the PC version of a sports title knows how to tweak those settings, Im not paying for something that runs in a browser and is made to run on the crappiest system on the market thats not an upgrade to what I have.

h-k616 said:

On Madden for the PC

I understand if EA Sports feels that they should tone down the graphics so that more people can run the game on their computers. They did this last year with FIFA for the PC.

I don't know much about running a game in a browser but the idea worries me. What comes to mind are low end graphics and all multiplayer gameplay. I don't like to play against idiots who want to go for it on 4th down all the time or exploit a hole in the AI. I only play the franchise mode and that's it. Please don't remove this.

Kael said:

The graphic argument makes no sense every previous version defaults to the low end on that. If your not going to make a pc game that is at least up to date in the graphics department why even bother. Im not even a person who cares about having the absolute best graphics but the lowest end systems are ps2 or Wii type graphics and thats not up to par.

Other PC games that come out right now all have the proper adjustments for graphics ect. I cant name one thats dumbing it down for the lowest level system I see this as an excuse to do it in the browser and if thats the way they decide to go good luck with it but thats not what the people upset by the dumping of the PC version are looking for.

The consoles have always been more arcade and computer games are by in large more simulations. The PC madden crown wants a stable good customizable football simulation with rock solid game play and at least the capability for graphics theat match that of the PS3 version.

Look how popular the PC games are that allow modding. Now I know this is totally against the EA model and doesnt have a chance but if you made Madden 10 easily modable and featured peoples Mods it would be wildy popular in my opinion. I hear 2K sports is working on a computer football game for next year now you may have the license for the players but If they make it fully modable it takes one guy or group of guys to make a good roster for it and thats a moot point and they will take the PC football sim crowd for good.

raczilla said:

Good feedback guys.  Kael mentioning playing in online Madden league since 2000 reminds me how a lot of fans overlook the fact that you could play Madden online on the PC before it hit the consoles.

Madden 2003 gets a lot of credit for bringing online play to the community but our PC veterans were playing Madden online a few years prior.

Kael said:

Yeah it was crazy fun it amazed me how much could be done back then we did fantasy drafts in chat rooms and guys took the time to make rosters by had to match what we drafted then we would update rosters weekly with the trades by hand, we had tournaments using customized rosters with historic teams with the names. Ah the good ole days I miss em to be honest...

Seriously I understand the economics of it all I just think the PC deserves a good up to date football sim. In the end thats either profitable or its not if it isnt oh well Im just glad you guys got 08 right because at least it something the roster community can keep that part up to date.

EAcom Golf Tim said:

"h-k616 said:

August 11, 2009 5:31 PM

On Madden for the PC

I understand if EA Sports feels that they should tone down the graphics so that more people can run the game on their computers. They did this last year with FIFA for the PC.

I don't know much about running a game in a browser but the idea worries me. What comes to mind are low end graphics and all multiplayer gameplay."

h-k616,

If TW Online is any indication of what is doable in a browser based game, don't be worried. TW Online looks incredible for a browser based game as well as a non-browser based game. If EA succeeds with the TW ONline model and delivery method for the game, I can see them bringing this technology to all of their PC Sports games......

Kael said:

Golf is a simplistic game on the pc though. One person hitting a ball. Football has 11 players going up against and reacting to 11 other different players. That through a browser defaulted to run on somebody’s crappy 3 year old computer with an embedded video card would not be impressive. You might get a casual non gamer to go for that but I know of no serious pc gamer that would pay for that.

Its a choice you either cop out and say were not doing pc games our pc outlet is an online only barebones model that appeals to the casual pc user that likes football but doesn’t play games on a regular basis or you make a serous pc version tailored to that crowd there is no mdidle ground aside from a straight port of one of the other versions which to be honest Id take even though it would be grilled in the reviews for it. Ive accepted that you guys have given up on making a serious pc version but this browser enabled online model is not going to capture the PC customers youve chosen to dump in my opinion.

Timmy458 said:

I thought I read something that the Superstar mode in Madden was going to be different this year, but from reading things about people who already have the game that Superstar mode is pretty much the same as it's been for the last few years. I am very disappointed since it was my favorite mode on the versions for the original Xbox since it had a lot of depth to it. And the next gen versions of it have been lacking in that. Really hope they change something about that.

Dewiel said:

Timmy458, thanks for the feedback. What would you like to see added to Superstar mode?

EAcom Golf Tim said:

"Kael said:

August 12, 2009 10:09 AM

Golf is a simplistic game on the pc though. One person hitting a ball. Football has 11 players going up against and reacting to 11 other different players. That through a browser defaulted to run on somebody’s crappy 3 year old computer with an embedded video card would not be impressive."

Simplistic? You think rendering animated 3D trees and water is simplistic? Rendering them in a normal hard drive based game is one thing, but to be able to do it convincingly through a browser is simply amazing. Trees are THE most difficult thing to render in 3D. Far more difficult than rendering 22 players, sidelines, and 3D stadium with nowhere near the polygon count that a real tree has. If EA can make TW Online look good and be scalable on a wide variety of video cards, they they will be able to do Madden without blinking an eye....

"You might get a casual non gamer to go for that but I know of no serious pc gamer that would pay for that."

People here said the same thing about TW Online before they were able to beta test the game. Those same people are becoming believers.....

Timmy458 said:

I would like to see all the things that were in the version for the Original XBox (haven't played that for a long time so don't really remember what those were) but like Interviews, either add those features or just scrap it and listen to what the community wants in Superstar mode since alot of people I hear don't sound satisfied with the current Superstar mode.

But I am looking forward to this years Madden since I like the realistic flow to the game where it won't be as fast paced as past years.

kbracer2002 said:

I enjoyed the Coach/Franchise Mode

Draft/Sign/Resign/Trade players

Call the plays

Manage the clock

Manage the rosters

Manage the franchise

Kael said:

Tim I dont think the modeling of trees is simplistic but Im guessing that there are some tricks you can use in that scenario to get by. Im in IT not 3d-modeling so Ill defer to you on that except I do know what kind of system it takes to be a decent gaming system that will run a game that looks at least as good as ps3 and be scalable enough to run on a crap one.

If you want to run in a browser and default to the lowest level sure you can use tricks but its not going to be as powerful as what I have so what makes you think Im going to pay for that its simply not an upgrade. Thats not to say you wouldnt get a market for it but its not the PC gamer market. Thats why you dont see Blizzards new games coming out in a browser they could make Starcraft 2 and the new Diablo that way but thats not what their customers want.

I think you guys have made your decision though it doesnt surprise me and I see the thinking behind it you figure theres not a big enough share of players that want a high end game on PC and you may be right you have those market demographics I dont.

btw I live local in Orlando and if you guys ever want to have lunch or a beer and discuss this Id be happy too =)

Samgman said:

While it's not even definite about Madden PC being a browser game it does bring to mind some questions:

1. Customization? How much and what will be customizable in a browser version? Will we be able to adjust AI, Penalties, etc?

2. Saving? Will you be able to save a game, franchise, team, player, etc? Will it be similar to the "Suspened a Game" feature in Tiger Woods Online?

3. Screen/video captures? For those that would like to capture a favorite or outstanding play, can this be done with the a browser version? Can the captures pics/videos than be shared with others?

4. Create a player, team, playbook, stadium? Will all of these options be able to be done in a browser version?

While I haven't played the Tiger Woods Online Beta the screenshots I saw of it looked very good. If Madden does become a browser version I wonder how it will look?

BMadison19 said:

It would be nice to see it on PC for one.  Secondly, I would like to see the injury carts come back.  With things like GTA and other games, I think people won't get offended by the ambulance anymore.  I would actually like to see it run over players again, but thats just me.  Ahhh the days of when Madden was on PC.  Anyway, the final thing, and probably most important thing is FANTASY FOOTBALL.  I would like to be able to setup my league (and maybe import it from ESPN, Yahoo, NFL.com, etc.)  I would like to be able to create the teams and schedules so I can play my league online or at a lan party with the same roster and schedule we have for the league.  We have been begging for this functionality for years with no response from any EA rep.  With how popular fantasy has gotten, I am surprised that you have not added this.

Just know that there is a serious credibility issue now that 2010 rolled around and there is no PC version, as promised.  There have been madden teasers where PC was shown on the bottom as supported platforms.  I trusted what was said last year and waited patiently only to find out that I got duped.  So know this, until you come through on your word, I don't believe anything that comes out of your mouth.  I am a professional who makes commitments and sticks to them with my users and I expect the people who I am a customer of to do the same.  I do not like to be placated and really don't like to give people the benefit of the doubt, only to get burned.  If you have not interest in continuing the PC platform with Madden, just say so.  Pulling this sidestep by asking what we would like to see to try to quell the anger we have for supporting the franchise for over a decade and getting dumped is, frankly, a little insulting.  Lets be real, and call it what it is.  At this point you have nothing for the PC users.  You CHOSE to work on TWO instead of honoring your Madden 2010 commitment.  It is plain and simple.  Not all of your customer base are idiots.  Please don't treat all of us like we are.  I'm all for you making money, just be honest and stop trying to placate us.  If you want to make the decision... make it, man up, and take the heat from it.  Leave the customer service tactics to the side and be real for once.

As for Madden Online, what happens if I am on a plane, will I be able to play my season?  If it is a yearly subscription and I choose not to renew, can I still play the previous season I purchased?  If you, AGAIN, decide to not release it once it is online, will I be able to continue to play the last available year like I do with 2008 now?

These are very important questions you need to answer because the way I see it, I am not purchasing ANYTHING from you at that point.  I will be purchasing a service and when that service ends, I will have nothing to show for that investment.  That will keep me inexplicably tied to you in order to play a football game on my PC.  If I decide that you are not putting enough effort into your software to warrant me handing over $40 (or more once you've got us as subscribers) I lose everything I invested.  I can go back and play Madden 1998 today if I wanted to because I have the ability to play it without a subscription and I still have the media.  I don't care if you quit creating physical media, but I will not buy into a subscription service that does not allow me to play the game or reinstall the game at a later time without the subscription.  I will continue to play 2008 with my buddies and Madden will become nostalgia and I will look back at it fondly before EA ruined it.  You people seriously scare me with your ideas.

P.S. For the record, I travel ALOT.  I am always playing madden on the plane and in the airport.  It needs to be able to function without being online.

chill351974 said:

Post only positive feedback here, negative feedback will not be tolerated from us PC gamers anymore. That’s why my post and another from yesterday was deleted. I guess it’s true, the truth hurts.

PS

This post will be deleted soon for not following policy number 1-9846 which states the following:

Who are you PC gamers to tell the truth about EA Sports? You can’t stop us from selling roster updates to the console players, you PC gamers could have had an update to but you actually demand improvements for your money. So we canceled the PC version.

chill351974 said:

Here is the post that was deleted yesterday:

Raczilla,

I was in line at midnight to purchase my copy of Madden 2010 for around 45 minutes and all I got was notification that Madden 2010 isn’t on the PC again this year. I’m not upset as I realize business is business and because of no Madden 2009 I was able to play NBA 2k9 and Pro Evolution Soccer. Two great games I was able to play because of no Madden last year. So I’ll be buying their upcoming games again this year. But because EA Sports has abandoned us PC gamers I will not purchase Need For Speed: Shift and Dragon Age: Origins. Or any other game that any division of Electronic Arts have to do with. Like I said business is business even for us consumers.

LandoKiwi5 said:

Raczilla,

First, I don't like online gaming or golf, so the Tiger thing doesn't matter to me.  I prefer the NHL.  

Second, the only gaming systems I have are a PC laptop and a PS2.  So, I've been hosed by EA three times this year.  NHL 09 was a spectacular dissapointment and waste of money for both of my systems.  I found out the PC version was a ported PS2 version too late, and that both versions were the same freakin' game we've been given since NHL 05, just with a roster update (incomplete update I might add).  Also NHL 10 isn't going to be made for either.  Ok, I guess that could be considered four times in one year...

EA has lost my business for a few years at least, if not permanently.

Samgman said:

Ok Raczilla, Here's a couple more ideas that popped into my head:

1. How about using a team customizable locker room for a main hub? There would be a chalkboard with options for play now, mini camp, pratice, skill drills, two minute drill, situation etc. There would be the coach's desk with the options for franchise, rosters, create-a-team, player, playbook, NFL Superstar HOF and maybe a laptop or computer screen with the options for play online and fantasy football. Something to make it feel like your right in the locker room with your favorite team.

2. How about a trophy case with all of the team's Superbowl trophys, both real and Madden?

When you click on a trophy you can see a clip of that Superbowl.

3. NFL Superstar Hall of Fame. How about along with creating a new superstar you can have an option to use one of your favorite NFL superstars and see if you can get him into the HOF?

Just throwing out some ideas/suggestions and hoping to see Madden PC brought to the next level and become a great football game/experience.

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