Welcome to Peter Moore's Official Blog

Rich said:

Could you give an example at what kind of plans you have for the PC? I'm having trouble believing you have any.

MD said:

So how did it come about that Madden would be one of the platforms that got canned?

JM said:

Franchise Mode / League play was at its strongest with the PC version.  IMO, you guys need to go in the direction of making Madden as close to the real thing (NFL) as you can.  By removing PC you just took a huge step back.

Joseph said:

Unpopular in "some circles"? Peter, you don't sound very compasionate there. I'm guessing the "circles" include, I dunno, the people who play it? Kinda like if you cancelled the 360 version, "some circles" wouldn't like that either. Way to belittle the PC folk. Yeah, I'm just itching to buy EA this year now.

I'm glad EASports finally managed to get rid of that nuisance they had called "PC gamers" - always pestering for problems to be fixed with patches and releasing user made content better than EA's own - the nerve! Seriously though, can I ask one Q - why did EA just port the PS2 game over for 09 like they have for years now? Madden PC made #2 in some August 08 sales charts, I don't see how that at least isn't viable.

Finally, will EA now be releasing tools for fans of Madden 08 PC to edit aspects of the game the previously couldn't? It's the least EA could do for their rejected PC fans, no?

Mr.Scarface said:

You OBVIOUSLY don't understand the Madden community.  The PC community has been the most relevant in keeping Madden alive all these years.   You pick the 20th anniversary of Madden debuting on the PC to screw the loyal followers?  Your track record a Microsoft doesn't make the PC community feel any better about you truthfulness in this matter.   Madden Online STARTED with the PC.   Unlike the console, this community is more MATURE and spends ALOT of dollars.  Yes, many of us have consoles.  However, you cannot get the league/franchise experience of the PC on the consoles.  The 3rd party tool support improves upon a game that we have come to love.  I WILL NOT BE BUYING THE 360 VERSION OF MADDEN.  I WILL MAKE SURE OTHERS IN THE PC COMMUNITY DO NOT BUY A CONSOLE VERSION ALSO.  I WILL ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO THE SAME.   IF POSSIBLE, WE WILL GET PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUY MADDEN ON THE CONSOLES TO THE DELAY THEIR PURCHASES FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TO HURT YOUR CLAIMS OF RECORD SALES IN THE FIRST WEEKS.  I had hope that a change of leadership at EA would give more focus to the PC community.......I was wrong.   I have been playing the PC version online for 10 years.  It is sad that you don't have any loyalty to us, as the PC community has had to Madden,  If you do not want to support us,  let another developer make a NFL game for the PC.  Your agreement with the NFL was to promote the NFL across ALL PLATFORMS.  We as a community will voice our displeasure with the NFL licensing group and EA's attempt to eliminate the PC community's access to NFL electronic entertainment.   There may be less of us than the consoles, but we are MORE AFFLUENT, MORE PROFESSIONAL than our console counterparts.  We are willing to spend money.  If you don't want our dollars, let someone else develop an NFL game who will appreciate us.

MD said:

In addition, if this is the case, i will never buy another EA product as long as i am a gamer.I will also spread the word as much as i can to everyone im in contact with in PC circles. People i work with who are casual gamers ask me for advice on alot of things related to gaming. Do you think im gonna put in a good word for EA products? NOPE. On the contrary, i will do my best to dissuade them from buying anything EA.

Also, i hope EA doesnt think they can skip a year and MAYBE make a PC version another year in the future. If you did, would i buy it, NEVER......would i pirate it, u betcha, id be more than happy to rip you guys off.

I mean, i know its no big deal for you guys to cut out a few million gamers, you say you care but you dont, you truly dont. So please stop patronizing us.

Also, good on Take Two for shutting the door in your attempt at another hostile takeover. I will fully support Take Two products as long as they stay their own. I would love to post all my nasty thoughts of what i truly think of your company but i will refrain.

Signed,

One Lost Customer

PS- I have a PS3 as well which wont see any EA titles anymore.

Th3deye said:

Well apparently EA has no clue how big the PC community is and how well organized it is too. In my opinion, PC gamers are more loyal to the game and play the way its meant to be played. This is no group with casual gamers who rent the game for a weekend to kill time. I know Scarface has his own league and know many who make the whole PC Madden Community happen. The only reason I can think of for EA to pull the plug on PC version is that if they cant find smart enough people to stop piracy and clean up the mess called EA Online. Hopefully they already have some or maybe they don't trust them enough with their capability, which is sad. So whatever it is, PC group wont go down without a fight.

Eric said:

I have both the PS3 and Xbox 360. I did buy Madden for the 360 on launch. I think the game isn't up to par and eventually switched back to the PC version(old gen) because of its superior control and ability to run ONLINE LEAGUES. I'm not talking about the leagues on the EA server because any attempt made by EA, as far as leagues go, have been crap. I'm talking about leagues run by individuals using the spawn and stat report features. The 360 version was fun for a while, but I just get sick of running exhibition games. The control, albeit vastly improved, still isn't as crisp and responsive as old gen. I also get sick of playiing totally glitched out cheese games like snapping the ball and running str8 backwards with the QB all game. Does it really take that much to update rosters, make some ai tweaks, and maybe add some new lame feature? I guess EA dosn't want my free $40.

yesimissyou said:

Nice office!

Sorry, I know this is is off topic. But maybe you have some time to adress some of my concerns in one of your next posts about your plan to move into the "real" mass market with your EA Sports games.

Read my thread here:

forums.electronicarts.co.uk/.../310618-s-end-world-we-know-read.html

Bilko said:

Nice. April Fool's joke - right?

TS said:

Perhaps the PC provides serious business challenges because you have been pushing second rate products for years. The NHL, NBA Live and Madden titles on the PC have been dissapointment after dissapointment, yet PC gamers still line-up and buy these products. If the same type of effort went into console games you wouldn't just be suffering serious business problems, you would be out of business.

It's nice to know that gaining exclusive rights to the NFL has led to second rate entries into the Madden series instead of anything new or groundbreaking.

Online leagues for the PC and the large modding community provide such an effective tool for you to work with, yet you have shunned them and made these games difficult to mod. They are the reason these terrible products that litter your sports line-up on the PC still recieve sales. Look at what a company like Epic did with the Unreal Tournament franchise. They have catered to the modding community, as a result the PC version of Unreal Tournament trumps the console versions. This isn't a case of the sports gaming market being better suited to the console, it's a case of EA being absolutely out of touch with reality.

You do have ideas to revitalize the market for PC sports games? Perhaps you should listen to what the community has demanded and work with them instead of shipping out second rate ports for all your sports series.

Joborule said:

I really dig the HQ you guys got.

As for PC gaming, I think it's a very bad decision to not support it this year. This was on thing that EA had over 2K Sports because they provided games to the PC community. Many of the communities, such as the NHL community, made PC gaming a big part because of the customiziation tweaks that can be done and shared to the community.

bob said:

are u going to upgrade madden for current gen because seriously, the last two years have basically been the same.

pistol pete said:

Peter, thank you for the tour of one of Ea's many studios..It seems very hip, however, it also seems as though the studio is built more for entertaining clients then for getting work done.  You need to get your game creators back to their respective drawing boards and start producing games that live up to the greatness that once characterized Ea sports.  In your latest video clip you mentioned a drawing that Todd Macfarlane left for you.  Well Peter, instead of having Todd Macfarlane sketch drawings on a chalk board why not use that resourse to help create better looking graphics for your games.  The Macfarlane empire is renowned for the detail of its action figures.  Attention to player detail is something that Madden has lacked in recent years.  So why not ask 'your friend' Todd to contribute some input into making your games better...I'm sure with the help of Todd and others you could figure out a way to put towels on player jerseys and improve the overall gameplay and resposiveness of games like Madden and your beloved FIFA.

Jon said:

I'm appalled at this news and sorely disappointed at EA Sports for turning their backs on their loyal customers.  The PC gamers have been the heart and soul of this game since its creation and it's a slap in the face that you've decided to not produce a PC version of the game.  This obvious attempt to force those of us who play the PC game to go out and purchase a console just to play your game is an insult.  We do not have to buy your game and I hope your sales drop enough this next year to highlight that message to you.  

It is obvious to me that in your company, you believe that the customer is wrong and you determine the customer's demand.  Congratulations, you just created the demand for me to do my shopping with another company.  Good day.

Falconsphan said:

This better be an April Fools joke or there is going to be a lot of pissed off ballaz . EA better take care of the PC players cause I for one dont own a consol nor plan to and wont buy any more EA games if Madden dont come out with 09 .

Gt86 said:

As a person who owns a Console and a Pc I find this comment very intersting  

"the PC presents some very serious business challenges to us in the sports category, particularly because so many of you all are playing your favorite sports games on the PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii."

This makes me think that your thought process is  that why should you put the resources into making a game for the Pc when we can force these Pc gamers to buy it for the consoles.

Guess how many Ea titles I play on the console including Madden NONE

I will not buy another Ea sports title what so ever because of this decision and will not buy any Ea titles ever again for my console. Guess I should say thank you because you have saved me allot of wasted money that would go to buying games for myself and my kids in the future.

HOPE YOU COMPANY GOES BANKRUPT!!!!!

nathan said:

your killing one of the largest communities out there. Not popular in some circles? get off your high horse. pc gamers have supported madden regardless of how bad its been these past years. Thanks for saving me 50 bucks. Thanks for nothing...

Mastdog said:

Well I dont have a URL yet, but if this isn't a April Fools day joke, the url will soon be up railing against EA and their poor business descision. I don't own a game system because Madden is better on the PC, the graphics are better, the game play is way better and as far as I am concerned, it blows away the ps3 and 360!

I have had this game for the pc for the last 6 years, often buying two versions, and a ps2 version. That's 100 dollars or more EVERY YEAR. well lets see. I am in 5 online leagues, minor overlap of players, but that is 32 dedicated PC PLAYERS in each league I dont know do the math. That is just a small segment of players.

YOU CANNOT TELL ME THAT THE PSP or DS MARKET IS BETTER THAN THE PC. No way, I cannot believe that anyone would play the game on those little screens, so tell me that the PC market is not worth your extra effort? You didn't do crap to the game the last three years so it's not like you are being put out or anything.

What a stupid decision by the man who almost killed the 360 market with his denial.

I will personally go on a crusade to get the word out to the gaming community.

Buddy Marshall (MrKdRck8) said:

Mr. Moore,

                 G'Day sir. This news about the PC version of Madden 09 not being developed is very disturbing to say the least.  The PC community has been the foundation of Madden since the beginning of the PC world and the fine EA Titles that we have enjoyed over the years. Why after 8 seasons, and very successful ones at that, would you drop the ball on us? Even though it is April 1st, I would be happy if this was just a fumble, and we recover it and go for the goal.

I just don't understand how this came to the conclusion that PC platform should be dropped. There are more PC supporters than you think. The PC community has been loyal for many years.

Since there isn't going to be an 09 version for PC, could you at least see if you can keep the 08 version online. Even with an updated roster for the beginning of the season this year, it would be welcomed. All of us Madden Ballers have to ween off of this, we just can't be cut off at the knees like this. I would like to bring something positive back to the EA Madden community. Please let us know something positive for the PC Community.

Richard C. said:

So no Madden on PC? you create a monopoly with the exclusive license with the NFL then you take away the only football game on PC? I own a Wii, PS3 and a Xbox 360, I will NO LONGER buy any EA Sports titles on those platforms until I see a return of the PC version of Madden.

I know I am only one guy but I am taking over 300 of my money and going to buy other sports title mainly 2K Sports titles.

Thanks for taking a dump on true gamers and giving consoles a poorly designed "next gen" game.

Mark D said:

Mr. Moore,

I’ve gotten Madden for the PC each edition since the first one back in the Apple II days.  I am VERY unhappy to say the least about the choice being made about Madden 09 PC!  I find it really insulting to the franchise to do away with Madden 09 PC on it’s 20th birthday.  If you was to ask any die hard madden fan that has played Madden on the PC and the console which one is better 9 out of 10 will say the PC.  Sure one might ask, “Well why don’t the sells prove it?”  Well, if you take a look at what has been done to the PC version the last couple years you would know.  To put it short Mr. Moore why don’t you take me up on this offer:  Make Madden 09 for the PC the same graphics as the 360/PS3 without losing any of the current functions of Madden 08 PC.  Toss in online leagues like it had in 2002.  I bet you the sells of Madden 2009 PC will ATLEAST triple from 08.  Come on Mr. Moore take me up on it.  I will toss in something else….I bet it will beat the sells of the PS2 and the Nintendo DS.

My advice to you is to repair the bad reputation EASports is getting.  You can make this happen but you are going about it totally the wrong way.  I don’t know why you are allowing this fire to continue at EASPORTS and actually adding to it.  First off…retract the whole choice of Madden 09 PC and make it happen or tell us it will be back in 2010 with new graphics, all the same features, and online leagues.  This will make you seem like the man that stepped in and made EASPORTS better.  Give us the impression you are here to make things better.  Please remove that http://www.eatake2.com/ website.  I understand we are not in your shoes and we can’t see what you can see.  However, please understand the reversal…you are not seeing it the way we are.  That act is very classless.  Ya know Mr. Moore the best way to stop a company is by making better games than they are.  Do you really think we all are buying into this crap about buying another company out.  Have you even herd of integrity??? Since you are not going to tell it like it is…I will.  The whole situation with TakeTwo went bad because of the License agreements with professional sports.  They had to spend all this money because you guys got the NFL license that it put them in a huge whole.  You don’t have to comment back about this, but please stop acting like we are some kids.  You might not see it…the people in your office might not see it, but you are coming off like a jerk that stole Christmas around here.  I know the first thing you might do is over look my statement or think I am crazy or even don’t care.  However, right now you are coming off like a NFL rookie that just signed a huge contract and thinks that he runs the world and can do anything he wants.  This will come back and bite you Mr. Moore.  It is not too late to fix this or make a change.  I am sure you are a cool guy in person, but you are coming off wrong bro and I am not going to be one of these yes men and steer you in the wrong direction.  Why? Madden is my #1 hobby.  That little thing you are agreeing to do by adding NFL coach to Madden for $89 is for suckers to think they are getting something good out of it.  So what are we getting as loyal fans for the 20th year edition?  You can’t say NFL Coach….we are paying for that.  Please save the videos, I messed up last time when I got that.  Now days we have youtube. What is EASPORTS doing for us???  Taking away the PC version. The version that started it all.  Shame!!!

Again I am going to tell it like it is!  The reason why we are not seeing outstanding sells for Madden PC has to do with copy protection.  Instead of taking a stand and being creative about the ways to stop warez copies of the game, you are taking it out on your loyal customers.  Hint EASPORTS:  We don’t care if we have to go through a couple extra steps to verify we have a legal copy of the game.   Mr. Moore, I would like to introduce you to a slogan I would now like you to use….”We will make it happen.”  Think about it.

You are going overboard on this Liverpool stuff.  Are you ok bro?  Are you here for us or yourself?  Let me guess…there will be a 09 edition of FIFA for the PC.  

I have a question.  What will it take to get Madden PC back?

Mark D

GJ6Kings said:

Add me to the list of former EA Customers. I have purchased every single version of Madden since it's debut and unfortunately on the 20th anniversary of Madden, I will not be one purchasing Madden on any platform. Since 2002 I have run http://www.mfllive.com with a long list of loyal owners around the world and all are extremely disappointed.

Sad day...

Jason said:

Count me in as disappointed too.   I guess I have about $120 extra in my pocket because not only will I not have to plunk down $40 for Madden 09, thanks to you Peter Moore, but I'm guessing there won't be a NHL 09 or NBA Live 09 for the PC.    And to those of you getting the console version, REMEMBER HOW YOU WERE TREATED WITH MADDEN 08.   THAT GAME WAS A BUG FILLED PIECE OF TRASH!   EA HAS THE EXCLUSIVE LICENSE FOR THE NFL BUT COULDN'T GET SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS TEAM UNIFORMS CORRECT!!!!!!!!!   Add to that the turnover and free agent bug and EA STOLE, THAT'S RIGHT STOLE, $60 FROM EVERY CONSUMER THAT PURCHASED THAT GAME!!!  If you want to be taken for a ride again, I suggest to you that you wait a couple of days!!!   DO NOT BUY MADDEN 09 ON RELEASE DAY!!!   JUDGING BY EA'S SHODDY HISTORY THERE WILL BE BUGS IN THIS GAME AND THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF RETURNS!!!!!   BUY USED COPIES SO THAT EA DOES NOT GET YOUR MONEY!!!!!!!!   I WILL USE WHATEVER MEANS ARE NECESSARY TO SUGGEST TO PEOPLE TO BUY USED VERSIONS WHEN THEY BECOME AVAILABLE SO THAT EA CANNOT STEAL MORE MONEY FROM PEOPLE!!!    HAVE A GOOD LIFE PETER MOORE AND EA!!!  

Mark G said:

Well you finally did it...doing away with the PC version...Sad...Sad...how much are the gaming console companies paying you, how much kick back are you getting from them what each time they sell a console you get a kickback? The PC platform is superior to console there is no comparison...

Another lost customer...

corey r said:

*** ea

Boo Birds said:

Take a look at all the Madden PC leagues that have their own website. The madden community is strongest on the PC.

statum71 said:

Mr. Moore, I've read that you all are focusing on expanding your (Madden) audience by making the controls easier. I hope we're not losing focus on improving the realism of the game just so non-gamers can pickup-and-play......

Trevor said:

What a shame. Consoles win.  PC Gamers take the fall.  Couldn't they make it a download-only game to prevent them from needing to package it and ship it to stores?    PC Games like World of Warcraft and Half Life sell a lot of copies through online downloads and registration.

GJ6Kings said:

Additionally,

EA should really understand and support what their loyal patrons have supported for many years. The Coach title is a complete waste of resources in my opinion and certainly does not have anywhere near the support, anticipation or loyalty of that the Madden community..pc and alike. Furthermore, if the Coach title were to ever succeed (especially after its atrocious first run) I would have to think it would do so in the PC environment and not the console. The game is very boring and tedious and most likely would cater more towards a pc buyer....not to mention, with the exception of a few boring, minute details...you could basically play a version of Coach on Madden if you so choose....The point is, Madden is the bread and butter and really needs to be the one title EA continues to support and make available to all loyal and longtime fans of the series as your customers deserve as much.

Carl Medley said:

How close are you guys from buying "Take Two"? Thing s change in life ppl!! Mr. More & EA will do what they think it is best for their company. You ppl don't buy "Madden 09" for the Xbox 360 on Aug.12th @12:01am, then that means no long line for me!!!!  I will buy Madden09!!! Have a nice day.

mlucky666 said:

Peter Moore you are complete moron.  I hope you run EA Sports into the ground you nitwit.

Canceling PC Madden is ridiculous

TWP said:

Bringing back that terrible head coach game and canning PC version of madden had to be a decision based on someone that knows little about software or sports.  The net is littered with PC leagues, some which have been going on since the first madden dropped. Nobody, and I mean nobody, would purchase that crappy EA HeadCoach unless you forced it on us by bundling it with madden.  I suspect since you've only had the job since Sept of 07 that you probably won't have hit much longer, and hopefully they will put someone who has a clue back into that spot and revitalize the PC version of the most popular selling game of all time. Do you really think Madden players are going to play on the Wii?

About the only thing positive from reading this announcement is that I am thankful I don't own any EA stock... Doubt you'll see 60 dollars a share again when you are making bonehead decisions like killing Madden on the PC.

Isn't there a Zamboni you should be driving in your native frozen wasteland called Canada???

Rick Lord said:

Looks like EA just likes to make easy money and to upgrade the PC version to a next gen design they don't have the competency.  Maybe you will fall the victim just like Sierra did with FPS Football, back then you stole their ideas and wiped them out.  I can only hope the NFL revokes its contract with you since you don't represent the customer.  Who ever does your market research needs to go back to school, they blew it.  From here on forward EA titles will not be purchased at my household and I have 4 pc's and the PS3.  From now on I'll support companies who don't neglect their customers.  Maybe the marketing books will write about this one, and I hope another developer knocks the Madden franchise out since 20 years you obviously forgot who you serve, the customer.  Shame on me for supporting you since 91 and the sega genesis madden series.  EA should be ashamed!

RW said:

You got to be kidding me..you can't come up with a business plan to make money off of a PC game that simulates the number one sport in the nation? And then you manage to piss off a large demographic of potential customers (PC users) that probably have more buying power and disposable incone than console users.  Pathetic...glad i'm not a shareholder.

Ultra_Defense said:

I have been playing Madden since the Sega days... When the PC version came out I switched to it and have only played on that platform since '97.  In 2k many online leagues took off and the game was amazing!!!  Over the years online play has progressed and Madden Leagues have kept up with ingenius stat tracking and interaction.  I look forward to the new PC release every year.  Please do not abandon creating new versions for the PC Community.

Rick Lord said:

One other comment, I bought madden07 for my PS3.  I played it 1x I found the game to be so poorly made on the ps3, I had it for the PC as well.  I basically paid EA and their companies that scourge for profits 60 dollars for that game and if I was a game review editor I would have given it a 70% rating on 100% scale and warned players that the game was unfinished and not worthy of your money.  It's a shame that the NFL gave you rights to the league because I am certain there are developers out there who would lay the wood to your "holier than thou" madden franchise mode.  When you lock out other companies and then leave us high and dry, you should not have the right to the monopoly any longer.  Hopefully the NFL remembers who their customers are, you and your ignorant marketing research should be relieved of your job, you don't appear to me to be cut out to provide products that customers want to buy, or maybe it's just the easy way out, make shoddy console games with no patching ability and let the consumer continue to despise your company's direction.

fk915 said:

I think its the wise decision not to release Madden 09 on PC ... after all Madden is released worldwide and any one who has 360, PS3 or Will can buy Madden and play it.

There are some game that are only released in certain areas like EA Cricket and EA rugby ... I suggest EA should release these game on PC ... because these games (specially the Cricket one ) is not released in North America  ... and people who live here and who wants to play EA Cricket can buy and import PC version ... If EA is planning not to release EA Cricket on PC then they should release region-free on consoles so that everyone in the world can play it. Cheers  

Struttdaddy said:

No PC version?  Wow.  I can't believe the best version of the game is getting cut (well best version after all of us in the PC community mod it).  

I was a die hard PC guy for years and this year I finally broke down and got it for my 360 and was grossly disappointed.  The game was terrible, and I couldn't wait until 09 for PC came out so I could go back "home" to it.

Looks like myself and thousands of others are going to be disappointed and will have to continue modding the versions we already have.

You just lost one of your best customers.

MrFlat said:

As a company, your responsibility to shareholders is to increase profits by increasing market share and sales.  Now with the agreement with the NFL you have a monopoly on all NFL titles which almost gaurantees market share.  However, on the sales aspect there is no way that your development of Madden 09 for the PC will be so costly that you would not get a return on the investment.  Even if you made a $1 profit from the sales of Madden PC 09, the research and development done for this version would surely increase the profits you would make for 2010 and 2011 versions.  Afterall,  its only every 3 seasons you upgrade the version anyway.

The obligation to shareholders, which I have been for the past 13 years since I bought 7500 shares at $3.77 per share is to contiue growth and profitability.  I cannot complain that I have not watched my investment reap tremendous success for me, primarily because of the Madden Title which is the reason I invested in the first place.  I would be lying if I said I was going to liquidate my holdings because of this, but I am deeply disturbed.  You think of also how this is going to impact Mad Cat and Logitech and their PC line and it becomes even more disturbing to me to think that such short sightedness on your part will now cause financial reprecussions for these companies as well.

Joe Camel said:

EAT A *** EA SPORTS !

D'ron said:

As long as Madden 09 on PS3 runs at 60 fps (as well as the rest of the PS3 line-up) I'm happy. But I do have one question regarding the Wii... why does the Wii always seem to get the shaft in regards to online play? I mean Madden 08 supports online play, so why is there talk that NCAA 09 will not? The Madden team couldn't share their knowledge with the NCAA team???

Nema aka NSAADAIE said:

Like a few have mentioned here already, most of us play Madden/Other EA titles, and that is it. I am not going to purchase a gaming console just to play this game. The game simply hasn't been kept up to date vs. what it looks like for consoles, yet year in and year out the die hards purchase the game anyway. Although this news is not good news it is my belief that the community that helped build this game will survive through modifying the rosters/etc, because at the end of the day we are bigger than the game itself. The guys at NaturalMotion are developing a beast of a football game, and whether or not EA realizes this mistake before it is too late is entirely up to them. Sure, EA can monopolize Teams/Logos/Player/Etc.... but nothing prevents an ordinary Joe like my self or Struttdaddy from taking the game NaturalMotion produces and modifying the rosters/teams accordingly. We will be fine.

markknife said:

EA has been drifting away from its loyal PC following for years, chasing the fast back with mediocre console products.  I've never bought an EA game for console, only rented and returned quickly, disgusted with the poor performances.  This latest decision by EA is just anoher indication of how far the company has slipped. With no Madden 09 on PC, there's no longer any reason for me to follow EA's products.  I'll join the masses headed elsewhere.  

John Partin said:

PLEASE put out a PC version!!!

I've been playing Madden online on my PC for almost 10 years!!!

I don't wanna find another game, please don't make make me.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!

Raiders7 said:

Sad news... but as it has been suggested... the only thing EA understand is $$$

Even if I understand you, it's just a waste of time to explain the why and how you prefer the PC version.. they'll not read or listen anyway.

So just don't help them... do not buy madden 09 on any platform next august.. and any other EA games.

I know I'll not.. but how many of us will not ???

Actually in a Euro online league.. there is no way for me to move to any console version... just to play against "win at all cost" peolpe etc...

Later

PS : dunno why but to me it's just another "damn April 1st thing"

Daniel UK said:

LOL @ EA....The PC guys in Leagues have been building tools to edit the game and change stuff...EA didnt like this so they sahut of the PC version..Typical big company tactic...Tossers!

hicpra said:

if you stop making the game you could at least create an update when the season starts...

Daniel France said:

When Mr Moore said "We do have ideas for how to revitalize the PC for sports games and the types of games that are best suited to the platform, and we’ll continue to explore those"

he certainly thought " .... and we’ll continue to explode those"

EA doesn't care about my buissness... I'll do the same with their products... I will not buy any new EA games....

Jimme said:

This was posted on april 1st. Please tell us it is all a joke and that Madden 09 will come out on PC. :)

bacardi gold said:

why make it for ps2  that i dont get that is same version for pc users

ok guys i see alot who are posting spread the word lets start removing there names and info about there upcomming games from our web sites. that is the best thing we can do also

you know the reason the buy other companies and exclusives is so that they can fail and still be successfull they spend way to much money on advertising kinda like brain wash you and there maden tour thats on tv is about the stupidest show who wants to see  abunch of tards who play the game every day try to win money. not only is madden canned so is nba live and nhl series but hey we get a fifa game and all the uker sports titles lol joke joke joke.

pdro said:

to answer peoples questions i see here, its very simple why theres no pc version. the same reason why theres no xbox, and the same reason ea tryna take out ps2.

becuase they want you to buy a 360,ps3 and wii an make billions of dollars but yet dont give it back. make a very cheap madden challenge prize. im never buying another ea sports game or even a video game unless ea stops this for madden09. 08 is such a waste like seioulsy madden08 may be argubly the worst game EVER out of over thousands of video games ever made. not 1 button works. i dont know what happen, madden seemed to be the game evreyone played.

so giving my honest feedback and also im very fusterated. i spent way to much money and time on ea. ea will make alot of money from this bs tatic but not from smart people like me. but then again im not smart, i should of never bought a video game in the 1st place but to bad i had no one to tell me that. i spend thousands and im done. but 90% of business try to do something like this but this is crazy. people always say stay away from video games, now i see why.

so please read my feedback becuase im being very honest and thousands of people feel like this or maybe you guys already know this.

Todd said:

I also will never buy another EA game.  A pity.

Matt Jacques said:

Please take note Mr. Moore. Just to show you how unpopular this is. I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER EA PRODUCT, EVER!!!!  

dgeorge said:

First thanks to EA.

It’s nice they care about the PC community.  We are all going to save $40.00 because they won’t be updating the roster.

EA is waiting for DirectX® 10 • Windows Vista to take off. By doing this they are going to lose a lot of good customers who want move to the consoles.

So getting upset is not going to fix anything. Let's find a way we can put our money & mind together to make this problem go away.  The guys at Football-Freaks have done that for years.

As long as we have Online Leagues the Madden PC community won’t die!

John M said:

Mr. Moore,

I've made my feelings known in your previous blog entry. Rather than bash EA's decision, I implore you to talk to some of the people in the PC gaming community if you are TRULY looking at the future of the PC gaming as part of EA's portfolio. You have an opportunity to expand your market should "Live for Windows" become a true cross-platform reality. The PC community has thrived improving your product and extending it's life over the course of each release cycle. Our user community has REAL WORLD experience maintaining online franchise leagues spanning multiple years and versions of Madden. Use us as a resource. Listen to us. (and returning our game would be nice too, ya know...). Hopefully you will take note of the feedback you've seen here from a dedicated customer base.

commish@mega-football.com

http://mega.leaguepulse.com

Stykman said:

As a business owner, I try not to take products away from customers.  I'm not sure what kind of study, or poll, or decision tool you employed in order to make your decision, if any...but you came to the wrong conclusion.

Now since you made the decision, and you are obviously not going to go back on it, do the PC Community a favor: Just publish the Revenue from last year's Madden '08 Sales for ALL Platforms, that reflect the 1st 30 days on the shelves.  Then 30 days after the release of '09, post those numbers.

Of course you won't do that...but you'll see them, and when you do, just think about the difference in that number to last year.  And how EA won't hit it's Sales Goal because they were too short sighted to see the Loyalty in PC Gamers.

Minordog said:

EASPORTS has bitten the hand that feeds them.  Madden PC gamers are the core of the best madden online franchise experience.  As many have stated previously, garbage in is garbage out.  How can you expect the sales of the PC version to match that of the console if you basically take the 2004 version, update rosters, package it, and sell it as Madden 2008.  Where are the innovations for the PC version?  I previously had an xbox360 and the online leagues, online play, and general experience is absolutely horrible.  It's filled with cheats, gimmicks, and glitches to the point that it's more frustrating than fun.  That's why I've completely switched to the PC version.  If another PC football game becomes available , i.e. www.backbreakergame.com, we as a PC community will be all over it.  Then you'll see the $$ that the PC community can shell out for a good product.

EASPORTS....  you've made a terrible mistake and screwed many loyal customers in the process.  You monopolize the NFL license and then discontinue the PC version.  Great combination.  You'll never see another dollar from me.

W said:

I want to say that I believe that the Madden series is one of the best games produced year in and year out.  The problem with the series is that very few ground-breaking innovations have been introduced in Madden in recent years.  If it's not broke then why fix it?  The game has become stale and hasn't changed much in recent memory.  Why should I plop 60 dollars down on a game that has a few rosters changed and a new year number on the box?  

I would suggest bringing back the Madden Cards.  Make it fun to play.  A much more robust stadium upgrading/building tool would help.  The current build tool is very generic and leads to generic looking stadiums.  It is nice to have but it is not ground-breaking by any means and could be improved.  More micromanaging in the coaching part of the game would be very welcome.  The ability to hire individual coordinators would make the experience so much better.  You hire a coordinator to run a 3-4 defense and you as head coach have the ability to implement the 3-4 defense with your new coordinator or to use your own.  If your team is successful then you could potentially lose your coach.  What if your former assistant is now coaching in your division or for your rival?  Would this help to form rivalries with other teams?  You as a coach would want to beat this team in a bad way.  This is the potential that hiring coaches could have on the football games.  

I would like for these ideas to be implemented in the NCAA series which is the game that I buy on the release date every year without fail.  I request this date off of work to get this game so this should show my level of dedication to this game.  I hope that EA Sports and Peter Moore are completely committed to listening to the gamers.  I have posted elsewhere on this site but I did not buy Madden 08 this past summer.  What is EA Sports doing to address my concerns with the series?  I am already committed to buying 09 to get the Head Coach game.  What will the '10 game have to set it apart from the '09 game?  Will it be a roster update or will there be a feature that makes the game worth playing?  I have rambled too much.

Thank you for listening to my ideas,

W

peter moore aka Emperor Palpatine said:

i decided to kill off the pc version cause microsft is paying me big time its all about the dollar

screw you pc guys :). and since we cant get it right we decided to buy the compation so that we dont have to worry so much. we will return to the pc market once dx10 and vista take off so that everyone can run our crappy games and we wont loose out so much. but we might make a bowling or darts game cause there real big in the uk so i think were ready to bring it to the rest of the world.

Howard said:

What runs through the developer teams' (and your) mind when people give such an outstanding praise for NFL2K5?  Do you guys even try to make a football game that comes close to that experience?  I've said it before and I'll say it again: 2K5 sets the standard for what a NFL football sim should be.  But since EA has the license, can you assure us that you are addressing these concerns:

Gameplay/Animations- Isn't it the least bit embarassing for EA to see how poor the tackling animations are in Madden 08?  Or how awful the collision detection is especially between O-line and RB's?  Certainly, you see how the animations "ragdoll" when contact is made (tackling specifically).  Are you going to address this in 09?  From the early videos of NCAA 09, it doesn't appear so.   You can't honestly tell me the QB's don't look stiff as hell when they drop back.  

Offensive Line- Isn't it equally embarassing that the offensive line after all these years still doesn't form a pocket for the QB in Madden?  Check it out for yourself.  Why does the human offensive line continually get thrashed by the AI defensive line?  Where is the balance?  While on the subject of O-line, let me tell you that the O-line slider does not work.  HONESTLY, I can barely run an effective play action w/out my QB getting smacked.

I'm aware that you've only been on the job since Sept 07 (correct me if I'm wrong) and you've pretty much had to inherit the headaches from the games that were developed prior to your arrival.  I'm just hoping that you can make some changes.  

Frankie said:

I dont know whats a big deal about not having a PC version. EA has to pay millions to NFL then they have to pay to Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo and if people just simply go and buy PC version thats not good for EA. I think its a good decision not to release the game on PC. After all video card  (worth 300-500$) to upgrade the PC, its wise to just simply buy Will or 360. Most of the EA Sports games are played by casual gamers and casual gamers dont upgrade their PC to play video games they just go and buy console.

People who are Madden fans will buy the game anyway ....  The future of PC gaming is look bleak ....  

Joe said:

Frankie, you're an idiot. Go do some research about building a PC before you run your ignorant hole.

To my knowledge, you don't revitalize a platform by dropping titles from it. With no other mainstream sports titles on the PC, I don't see the 'challenges' of producing a game for the PC.

kobe said:

April Fools!!

Right?

I really can't wait to go buy my copy of Madden for my Nintendo DS..lol   I can't believe that DS will have be available but no PC.... EA Suits are morons.

Rich said:

"EA is waiting for DirectX® 10 • Windows Vista to take off. By doing this they are going to lose a lot of good customers who want move to the consoles."

Unfortunately, we'll probably see another Windows before DirectX 10 takes off. Vista is not a gaming platform. Which could actually be a reason behind this.

Eski said:

Uhhh, not good.  I just purchased a souped up PC for gaming and now it feels like I got punched where it hurts....

Time to plug in the Atari Flashback.....

Jay said:

I was shocked when i finally got an 360 and the first game i got was madden 08. That game sukked big time. U fumble almost every possesion!!! linebackers with a rating of 70 making acrobatic leaping int...Ur receiver is wide open and u throw a bomb and he drops it. Just a pathetic effort by ea to say the least. I hear anotha football game is coming out from another company, and while ea does have the nfl license i simply dont care about playing with authentic teams. I love football and i will play any football game that is closer to reality...NFL players or not.

I never played any madden on the pc, but how can u take that away from them. That was a big part of madden in the early days. If it weren't for the pc community madden wouldn't be where it is today. I simply think this Peter Moore guy is worst then the last CEO. What colleges did u guys go to so i know not to send my kids there..What a bunch of idoits. There would be no EA if it weren't for customers, now its either upgrade or accept it..I choose to accept it and find another killa football game that will put madden to rest. The nerve of u people!!

I see those that say u wont buy any ea games but end up buying it anyway. I'm telling u stick to your guns, the reason why ea do the things that they do is because they know majority of the people going to buy it anyway. Boycott their games screw up their revenue i can almost guarantee u will see changes in the coming years.

Fitzme2well said:

This is rediculous. How can you abandon the very platform of dedicated supporters that made you what you are, to an extent. Madden was orginally created for PC and we have stuck by the versions over the years, regardless of some of what we considered to be EA idiots at times. To not come out with another version, is a tragedy and you can consider myself and many of my friends to be former clients. I will NEVER buy another EA title if Madden indeed does away with the PC version!

returner said:

PC Madden Players are the Original Madden Players. We've grown from playing at our buddies house to playing online against opponents thousands of miles away to now forming our own leagues. Console players are still far behind us, they are still excited about just playing online when we've become bored with that. When they actually get to leagues, they will probably still have to use a PC. This means more time for World Of Warcraft( the most popular video game) and maybe some BF2(though I won't actually pay for it, no more money to EA) Madden was trhe only video game I purchased every year.

Brandon M. said:

EA can seriously go screw in my opinion at this point.

All I can say is I will NEVER purchase ANY game that is ever released by EA or EA Sports or any other umbrella your "monopoly" engulfs.  To alienate all your PC consumers is absolutely ludicrous... the last 4-5 years of madden have been a god damn direct port of the PS2 version of the game... and you cant even muster another god damn regurgitated version of the game. EA can screw off.

Pissed said:

You wonder why sales has declined in the PC market over the last five years, OPEN YOUR EYES... how can you expect sales to rise if you release the same bullcrap game year after year with minimal improvements.  Maybe if you improved your god damn games from year to year... you SELL MORE FRIGGIN COPIES...

Poor poor business decision.... open your god damn eyes and make some real business decisions on how you can IMPROVE your god damn sales instead of cutting them because your mutli million dollar company is too lazy to keep the PC version up to par.

Spedman said:

This is absolutely ludicrous that you would even CONSIDER, let alone condone canceling Madden 09 for the PC. If you think that canning it for the PC will cause us to port our money (much like you port the same game from ps2 to PC) to a X360, PS3, or Wii version you are seriously mistaken.

Not only will I not buy Madden 09 for the PC, I also am boycotting ALL EA games from now on.

Besides, 2k Sports games have your number. Hold onto that NFL license while you can.

grendel said:

  I have not purchased a single EA game since you bought the exclusive NFL license. My take on that was you simply could not compete with the espn 2k version, as it was a superior game.

  I will continue not buying your games until you relent and actually learn to COMPETE in the marketplace. Competition may be bad for EA, but it is good for the consumer.

Blogga Pleaze said:

Wow...  I'm so excited Madden 09 for Nintendo DS!!!!

NOT!  WFT Peter?  NO PC??

Peter Moore needs grow some balls instead of hair!

smoothn00dle said:

PC gaming is dead, guys. EA goes where the money is. The whole game development community is moving to console because it is a better gaming platform. I think EA will cut off the whole sport line up on PC platform and other developers will follow.

Kotaku said:

John Madden made his first video game football appearance on the PC twenty years ago, with EA shipping on the Apple II, Commodore 64, and DOS platforms. However, Madden won't be making an appearance on the PC this year, as...

IronKobra said:

I think Peter needs to bring up google and look up madden online leagues, then he will have a better idea how many people play Madden for the PC.  Of course to be fair with every other company working to revitalize the pc and Microsoft actually pushing it as a gaming alternative it makes sense for EA to cut off their nose to spite their face.  I have been a loyal EA customer buying not just Madden but the NHL title, the NBA and other games as well.  Now i don't even know if i will bother supporting this company by buying the other titles  why should we as consumers and fans waste our money on a company that refuses to relent and give us the titles we want.

If they do not do a madden this year or any other year they should step back from their exclusive contract and allow a company that has not lost touch with the fans and consumers to make the next NFL product.

Rich said:

"PC gaming is dead, guys. EA goes where the money is. The whole game development community is moving to console because it is a better gaming platform. I think EA will cut off the whole sport line up on PC platform and other developers will follow."

Not at all. PC is still -the- gaming platform for FPS and simulation games. Period. Head Coach, which is coming out for only PS3 and 360, is either going to cater to the ADHD console crowd or it's going to be more of a failure than the original. The main problem with PC gaming is not the platform itself but by decisions made such as this one. Vista and computer sellers(almost impossible to buy a gaming PC at places like Best Buy) aren't helping either.

stoicite said:

I never thought someone could be so smug to think they could justify killing off an ENTIRE Maden platform in one paragraph.   We deserve, no, DEMAND better respect than that.  

Something you may not have considered is that many of us die hard PC fans also have the xbox360 or PS3.  I returned the xbox360 version of Madden 08 the day I bought it, it was absolute trash.  I kept my PC version and played it with great joy after the community made it playable with their mods.

So now instead of purchasing a copy for the PC and xbox360 each year, I get to save hundreds and not buy either of them.  I will, however, do all I can to support those companies that still believe in producing quality games and actually improve upon those games in subsequent releases.

I will do all that I can to ensure that others boycott your titles as well.

Mitch S said:

This is really the last straw, I can honestly now vow that I will never buy another EA Sports game again, EVER.  Screw all of you corporate whores at EA.

sdavisgsx said:

This is just unbelievable.  Do you guys even pay attention to the countless online leagues out there supporting Madden for the PC?

Terrible decision and it’s a shame that this is happening.  I just bought Kane’s Wrath this weekend; it WILL be my last EA purchase.

Schweaty said:

Its about time you guys got rid of Madden on the PC. You SHOULD have done it years ago! For the past three years all you guys at EA did was take the same game, put a new guy on the cover and rip us off for $49.99 each and every year. You've neglected the PC more and more each year and yet some of your most loyal fans are playing on that platform. There are many leagues filled with players who invest TONS of time in them. They have websites devoted to the franchise mode and keep yearly stats, draft, trade and free agency. They make your crap game more real than even YOU could ever have imagined. So what, you gave us a few new animations each year and new ratings, woopidity doo! The way I see it, EA made $150.00 off me by selling the same damn game 3 years in a row.....

Ashok Das said:

You are an A Hole !  The pc version is the best version! I own a 360, ps3 and Madden 2008 sucked on both!  The pc madden has been around for years. Maybe if your sorry development team  started earning their money, then we would want to play another version. The only reason Madden is still selling is because of hype. I wish the government would look into your deal with the NFL.  I hate you and your team ! I can't wait for backbreaker which  will be the only true next gen football game! Tiburon should be named terribleron!

Engrish? said:

Posted by Frankie

"The future of PC gaming is look bleak ....  "

No Frankie, the only thing looking bleak is your english. FWIW You can play Madden 08 with a graphics card from 2000 NO PROBLEM. When they don't do anything to improve the graphics of the game what do you need a new graphics card for? You don't have to re-invest in hardware to play this game!

Xiao said:

Oh cry me a river PC gamers.  My goodness, get over it.  Crying and whining is not going to change the outcome.  Besides, you guys have had a good run (20 years from what I've read).  So how can you complain after being supplied for so long w/ Madden?  Hell, those of us who game on the console have had to spend hundreds of dollars every 5 years for the newest console to get our football fix.  

SirBruce said:

Congrats, EA, you just lost a 10-year customer.

I've bought all the Madden NFL games on PC since 1998.  I am a coah mode / franchise mode player.  The console cannot give me that experience, nor will I be buying your next Madden on console on some vague hope or promise that it can deliver all the stuff I liked about the PC version.  I prefer my mouse and keyboard, thank you very much.

Bruce

Sam said:

I guess I just don't need to be any more games published by EA. Even though I've been buying EA games for what seems like 20 years I guess I'll "put you on the bench" and buy other publisher's games. Too bad no Wii Tiger Woods for my brother as that would bring you off the bench. See, that was a terrible economic decision. Hope it was worth it.

Artur Roszak said:

You just lost a customer, what kind of stupid decision was  this. EA run by morrons.

Madden Mike said:

Well....Peter Moore, since you canceled Madden 09 PC, I have canceled buying Madden 09 for my PS3 of which I purchased last month! I have been buying Madden PC series for 15 years now and it figures EA would "not develop this year’s Madden for the PC" and stab us PC'ers in the back on Madden's 20th Anniversary. That's just a ROTTEN THING TO DO!!!!!!

Well, just to let know, you have alienated us for the last time!

I have asked many of my friends, family and neighbors to NOT buy Madden 09 or any EA SPORTS games for their consoles and 100% of them concurred ....... Why?....because they belong to Madden leagues like myself using their store bought PC version of Madden!

Because they also agreed that it's DOWN RIGHT POOR decision to canceled Madden 09 PC.

You Peter Moore should know that there are many "PC Maddeners" from Madden PC leagues around the WORLD!

I will personally make it my business to tell others NOT TO BUY MADDEN 09 FOR THE CONSOLES and any other EA SPORTS games and thanks to the INTERNET, I CAN and WILL reach the world!

In conclusion.......MR PETER MOORE....thanks for saving me $60 and more this year and years to come! NO MORE EA SPORTS GAMES FOR ME...PERIOD!!!

I'll spend that $60+ bucks elsewhere and not with EA SPORTS!!!

SHAME ON YOU FOR SPITTING IN THE FACE OF LOYAL MADDEN PC FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

jtaber79 said:

Mr. Moore,

Thanks for the confirmation on no Madden 09.  At least now we know.

I'm not going to fire off rounds at EA or you Mr. Moore.   Instead I'm simply going to say that the PC Madden community will live on.  There are hundreds of online leagues and dozens of freelance programmers that have made Madden 08 a much better game than EA ever could have.  They will thrive now just to show you that you can't get rid of us that easily.

We'll continue to mod uniforms and edit rosters (we have to do it every year anyway because your development team can never really get it right despite that exclusive license you have with the NFL).  

In closing, I'd like to say "Thanks!" to you and your team for saving me $40 this year.   I know it's not much,  but I do appreciate it.

Jason

http://www.MaddenLeagues.Net

garrett said:

ARE U FUCKING KIDDING ME NO MADDEN 09 ON THE PC WAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS?????

Ted Smith said:

Mr. Peter Moore,

I appreciate the confirmation that Madden 09 for the PC will not be develop this year.

Also thanks for Madden 08 PC of which I enjoy. I hope that a roster update with pictures for rookies will be release later this year but if not there are freelance modders for this game who really make this game more enjoyable.

In conclusion, again thanks for saving me $39.95 this year and hope that in the future, Madden PC will be even better than it is now and that good ideas for "how to revitalize the PC for sports games" will come to past.

Ted Smith

GreenBayGuru said:

Well 1st i got screwed out of mvp on the pc cause ea couldnt "secure" the naming right and now even tho no bs like that is a prob with madden were now losing that as well.

This is going out to EVERYONE that works, is associated, or does biz with EA

*** YOU & i hope you all suffer the most horrible dieseases this planet has to offer.

Ive dumped so much cash into this game but yet because little joey's mom can only afford a bs console for 350 so i get screwed!!!

Maybe you guys should actually come up with a biz plan that actually revolves round adults who play your games and not the parents of moronic little chump kids who will never know the glory of the pc version of any of your games because you whored your souls for an extra dollar

just in case you didnt catch it the 1st time

*** ALL YOU AT EA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wont even RIP your *** games anymore

MAD EA FAN said:

ONCE AGAIN,I SEE NO HAPPY EA FANS,JUST LOTS OF MAD CUSTOMERS.IS EA LISTENING?NOPE,THEY OUT PLAYING SOCCER AND POOL.

Evan said:

I don't really care about the pc Madden. I just want to say that the Vikings purple on purple jerseys are kick ass and they better be in Madden 09.

eric said:

i m a french pc player of madden since a long time ago now,i will no more buy easports products ,i surely will buy the 2ksports titles now wich are more better now than ea sports products

bye bye mr moore

eric

cédrick said:

it's not fair

Jospeh said:

"I want to apologise for the dereliction of duty to our company's number one platform, the PC, in terms of gaming."

Anyone remember where this quote is from, and who said it?

Why, that was the then Microsoft Xbox boss Peter Moore at the DICE Summit in 2006.

I dunno, I just found that quote to be a little funny.

NonalMetal said:

Well, well, well...

Now i'm sure EA sports just have no consideration for those who made them one of the top gaming industry: the PC gamers.

I'm a big fan of the NHL and thus of the NHL series and i have come to see the consideration and support dwindling from the '97 edition to the latest '08 one (which was roughly a '07 roster update version sold at 60€).

Basically, there are no more roster updates (except for consoles as i saw there was indeed updates for Xbox if i'm not mistaken), no more patch to correct the numerous (yes, there was numerous ones) bugs.

This is just another example of your total disrepect and i'm glad to annouce to you that you will no more sell an EA game to me or any of my relation if i can avoid it.

Please be assured as well that, if i am to buy any sport game on PC or console, it will be a 2Ksports equivalent or a product of some other concurrent.

Regards

Daniel France.. said:

Mr Moore... look at www.npd.com/.../press_080402a.html..

"...

The PC platform continues to be the driving force in online gaming, with 90 percent of online gamers stating they use a PC to play games online, 19 percent claiming they use a video game system (console or portable) and 3 percent claiming they use a cell phone.  

..."

Just a question....

With such consideration, how many of those '90% of online gamers' will buy any EA games in future ?

For my point of view... I will not buy any EA game (pc,xbox360 or else) ...

If I'm not alone .. I think you could be fired before long....

someone said:

I prefer they not release game at all on PC instead of those crappy, bad-looking PS2 ports of EA Sports games. They could use the 360/PS3 version for PC, but no, they choose the ugly PS2 one. Screw them

Vinzealand said:

I hope its an April fish...

Simon (The Boys) said:

Ok, thanks to Mr. Moore.

This league and many more will die down here in germany.

http://imt.obda.net/index.html

Thanks again.

But you can help with this nice little update service you did so well for madden 08. ;-)

Charlie said:

It is time to hire at EASports the right people who understand gamers.

So what's your next move ? Remove NBA and NHL from the PC ?

I used to buy those US Sports games every year in France and I enjoy updtaing my hardware to have a more accurate experience .

WHERE ARE THE NEXT GEN VERSION OF THOSE SPORTS FOR PC ?

I WON'T BUY A PS3 OR A XBOX 360, I DO HAVE A WII but when I tried the NBA LIVE version, I played for 5 minutes then sold the game !

Thanks Mr Morre, you lost a customer for good !

Kostas "DjSolid" Hajaropoulos said:

Dear Peter

I do not play Madden NFL much, because I am Greek and I do not play a lot of American Football. But I have been a serius gamer for all of my 25 years of my life. I started with a Game Gear and then a Genesis, before I buy my first PC. Let me tell you what were the first games I bought for my gaming machines: FIFA (GameGear), NBA Live 96 (Genesis), FIFA 96 (PSone), NBA Liive 2000 (PC). You get the picture, right?

Now I suppose that a lot of US gamers started their gaming lives with Madden NFL. Hell, I think that you may have started sports gaming with an EA Sports title for all I know. Imagine if somebody at your favorite sports brand told you with a great smile that you should buy your favorite title, ANY title, for a specific console or that it wouldn't be available anymore on a certain platform, and that platform could be your favorite or even your ONLY one. I do not think that you would feel exactly good about that...

But I do not think that this is the problem here. I believe that there is something going on about the PC in the industry. From EPIC Games' people saying that the PC is not their platform of choise anymore (more or less, right?) to you saying that there will be cuts in EA Sports games for the PC, I think that the industry is turning against the PC in some terms of gaming. I fully understand that piracy is a huge issue. I also understand that the PC is not as steady as consoles in terms of hardware choise. But let me ask you this: What do you do about these problems?

For years the situation was like that. For years the PC was unstable as a gaming platform. For years there was piracy. But EA kept making games, and great ones if you ask me. Does EA and other great developers think that the PC is a non-profitable platform? I really do not think so... Look at Valve. Look at KONAMI and PES. Hell, look at Blizzard!!! Their games suffer from the same problems that all PC games suffer from. But they have chosen a different path. Valve is making games for PC and consoles, but the PC is the platform of choise. Blizzard is not making any games on consoles (I remember only Diablo for PlayStation), but choose to support to death their PC games. Do they not have the same problems all pc developers have?

I really understand that sports gaming is very, very different than any other genre. I also understand that there are more consoles there in the world than really good PCs. But I also happen to know that the PC is a very powerfull and flexible platform, a platform that a very big part of gamers choose as the ONLY one for gaming. So, instead of taking drastic measures against the PC, I think that you can choose to take measures against the PROBLEMS that PC Gaming has.

Oh, and there is a certain Alliance that would like EA to be part of.. PC Gaming Allliance... Think about it.

P.S.: I miss your tattoo and rubber duckies days...

Yours

Kostas

Ulov3 said:

Ehi Peter, any news about a nex gen rugby game??

ThorAxe said:

I will never buy Madden for the console. I bought it every year for the PC save the last to because I finally tired of crappy ports.

The PC was the leading game revenue earner in 2007. Ignore us at your peril.

Mr. B said:

Here is the low points of my Madden PC career:

1) Create promising games like Madden 2001 and 2002 that really get people excited about the future versions and improvements that will be made

2) Remove the fan favorite online franchise feature and then claim nobody is using it, and then attempt to charge players for the feature though EA Servers

3) Add features to future games while at the same time taking features out, never creating a complete game that could ever compare to the top shelf games..

3) Buy exclusive licence from the NFL to remove all competition

4) Stop production of the PC platform all together, forcing people to purchase the consoles in order to enjoy your "exclusive rights" product.

EA you have dragged your loyal customers through the mud long enough. Hopefully the NFL will take notice of this situation and retify it by disolving the exclusive rights agreement.

Tim said:

How is the 2k football? Looks like that might be my next purchase. I was also going to buy TW2009 but  now I'll go somewhere else. Any better golf games out there? Lets face it guys, we dont need the real teams and players anyway. I play Front Office Football and its just as fun with the fantasy teams. Goodbye EA.

ninjagoat said:

Ive been an avid madden fan down the years and also a Fifa fan but of late I've started to let them go to the way side on the PC. Just the other day i downloaded the uefa demo for my pc and once again i saw a last gen game. Ive a top end pc myself that could well run any of EA's top PS3/xbox360 titles and tbh its a disgrace that we are playing second fiddle. What is it in the past we haven't paid enough to have the pleasure of playing your games proper are is it your all just to f**king lazy to port a descent version of the game to the PC. If the PC is to be individual well at least make it Original I've had enough at the moment wasting my money on second rate EA titles what was the sense in giving us the option back in the day to use the xbox360 controllers when all we would be playing with them is playstation 2 standard titles again ill state its a disgrace and it should be sorted for the new FIFA arriving this year you want the money from your consumers give them something proper to buy for god sake....

Lee said:

I never knew you were a RS?

Remember 1 = 20.

Downtowners said:

The fact that EA has for several years now duped us all (The PC Community) and to see this is no surprise to me.  But I am the dummy that continues to buy the games.   I am at a point where if they quit making the PC games, I will never buy another EA game in my life.   FYI EA I buy all your titles.  So your not just losing 40 bucks, your losing about 500 a year just from me alone.   You would think that Generation X.  Which I would assume is most of us on here.  Not only play next Gen games but also play PC.   I have played in various online leagues for years.  And will continue to do so.  Problem is, next gen engines don't allow us to MOD like we can on PC.    I own an XBOX 360.   I play it occasionally for certain games.  I own a some of the sports titles just as I do with the PC.   However, the PC games are much more fun.  The league capabilities are by far and away 1000x better on the PC then it is on the Next Gen Consoles.  Communities have been built.  Leagues run.  Problem is EA is driving us all away because their focus is on Next Gen.  Not PC.   Probably why sales have diminished.   We had a discussion in our league about why people are not playing games in our league like in years past.  I.e. simming more games or having to find subs.  Its because EA continues to not listen to the PC gaming community.  If they actually brought in some of us, or asked some of us.  Heck even listened to any of us maybe this direction would change with regards to profits on the PC games.  Whats evident that the PC gaming community is not dead, look at games like World of Warcraft.   That game is huge!  But your not gonna get that on a Next Gen console.  

EA I beg you to listen to the PC community.  Not only to continue to publish pc games, but to also better them.

I know for 3 years there has been a bug on pc to pc connection on the NHL series where you can not call a time out in a pc to pc connection.   You think after repeated times they were informed that they might actually fix it, or patch it.   Nope.    Not even a roster update this year.  Marc Staal a Ranger from game 1, wasnt even in the game.   Just doesnt make sense to me.  

If they dont want to package it, make it available for download.   I bet they'd be shocked of how many of us still would buy it.   ON ONE CONSIDERATION....UPDATE THE GAMES!!!!!  PATCH THEM, FIX THEM.    Stop worrying about the spin or rama special moves that one player might make.  We want simulation games, not arcadey glitch gaming.   Whats fun in that.  You say you want to give us realism on all these videos we see.   But we get the opposite.  And then you just repackage the years games from before.  You basically pi$$ing off the PC community to the point where we wont buy any ea games.

Remember EA, while a lot of revenue is coming from Next Gen.  Its your pc community who uses both.   Might want to reconsider this one.  But you gotta fix the product first.

God I wish I knew how to make computer games.  Because these are such easy fixes.

Jay said:

Peter --

I'm not going to get too harsh because some of this history predates your involvement with the company, but I think you're missing a bit of chicken-and-egg here. I'm sure you're looking at sales numbers and PC's probably something like 5% of your units sold, so it probably makes sense from a balance-sheet perspective.

But you're missing the larger issue, and it's going to come back and bite you in the ass if you don't recognize and deal with it. Your business model -- charging full-game prices for expansion-pack content -- is flawed on ALL platforms. You've been able to get away with it in the console space because the new hardware is driving the software sales for the time being, but what's going to happen when you don't have new console hardware to prop up sales and you have to get by on the diminishing quality of your product?

I mean, the dismissive tone of your post basically paints the picture of PC gamers as some malcontent rabble, but ultimately, if we didn't buy the game, it's because we've seen the emperor's new clothes for a couple of years now. Why should we keep buying a new copy of the same game, when -- to pick just one example -- the user community can write an add-on to deliver better CPU draft AI than EA's ever delivered? Give us second-hand shoddy goods, that's how we react to them. And if you don't come to grips with this, it'll eventually play itself out in the console space as well. This isn't a "serious business challenge" just for the PC... it's a fundamental flaw in your way of doing business across all platforms.

Beals said:

Fhuck Peter Moore, Fhuck EA Sports, There is no Fhucking way in hell that the Nintendo Fhucking DS sells more copies then the PC. You lazyFhucks need to make another version on madden for the pc with next gen graphics. I have 2 8800gt's in my computer and my xbox 360 blows donkey balls compared to my computer. There is nothing but cheese and glitches on consoles so i guess we will just figure out how to mod madden for the PC. FHUCK YOU MOTHER FHUCKERS!!!!!!!!!

Frankie said:

Again, lot of people are pretty pissed off and getting personal. People it’s not a big deal I totally support EA's decision not the release the game on PC.

After all North Americans have highest number of per capita consoles and NFL is the most popular Sports game in North America, that means anyone who wants to play the game, either already has a console or can buy one. I suggest EA should do the same for NHL and NBA PC versions as well. No point releasing NFL, NBA, NHL and Nascar (Already not on PC) on PC.

In my opinion they should continue FIFA on PC. FIFA is very popular in Europe and Asia, where not many people have consoles. In poor countries like China and India not every one can buy a console, so to sell the game it must be on PC as well as on consoles.

By not releasing NFL on PC, EA will use the resources and money to improve the game. Again majority of EA Sports gamers are casual and majority have at least one console in the home. Lot of them are just weekend gamers, they just want to spend a good time.

Trust me this decision will increase Madden's sale so what if a couple of dozen whiners dont buy the game? Go play your World of warcraft you s******

Josh said:

This is crazy.  My son and I play Madden on the PC nearly every day.  Why would we waste money on buying a console?  As soon as the latest consoles are made they start to fade in terms of processing power.  But on the PC there are new video cards, processors, etc.. that constantly keep it at the front of technology.  Consoles are made for people that just don't understand that the PC is the greatest gaming device of all or they can't afford a quality gaming rig.  I can't believe that you would avoid the most cutting edge platform of all (the PC) and screw so many loyal fans.  There's no way I'm going to drop cash on a console just to play Madden so I guess I'll have to hope for the PC community to at least keep roster updates coming for the PC to keep it fresh.  What a sad sad day.

Greg said:

EA's business philosophy is all about one thing: Money. If you haven't figured it out by now, everything from the way they view their employees, to the way the treat their fans, is all about the dollar. Its no secret that money is what business is about, but EA takes it to the extreme. If the PC version doesn't sell as well as they like, they drop it. Why would they care about the dedicated fans? There is no financial reason to, and therefore they dont. The "very serious business challenges" is a very political way to tell people that they are not happy with their profit from the PC, and thus do not feel supporting the PC community is worth it. That's the bottom line. Its not personal, its financial.

Remember, these are the same people that will not hesitate to make their employees work 100 hour weeks to meet deadlines. The same people who would rather cause hardships and family problems for their employees than have Madden miss a ship date. Sure, they've "improved" throughout the years and don't "require" their employees to come in on Sundays, but you better believe if they thought for one second Madden was going to be late, those employees would be hating life.

As far as game quality goes, Madden sells. Madden sells year in and year out. For this reason ALONE, they have zero financial incentive to improve the game, and therefore they wont. Again, why would they if the game is selling as it is? The community has to understand that nothing is going to change when it comes to making a great football game unless their sales drop.

For the gamers around the world, everything about EA's business philosophy is unfortunate. For EA, it is all about the dollar.

Jeff said:

I find a few things comical here....

1 -  it is the 20yr anniversary of Madden and the PC gets kicked in the balls - again.

2 - the Nintendo DS will have a version but not the PC

3 - EA just got an exclusive rights license from the NFL and pulls this BS

Its a shame too b/c you enraged so many PC users that my guess is you prolly just took a million + dollar hit to your bottom line.

If it is about money, bozo, raise the price $10 per game....betya we ALL still guy the game.

Hopefully, the PC guru's will take the current version and really mod it so we can have a better version heading into the next NFL season.

Whoever is making the decisions at EA is a complete moron when it comes to profits and losses.

Shame.

Darek said:

perhaps an april fool....

Felix said:

With the quality of the recent editions of Madden for the PC, I hope they understand why their sales were having a hard time.

As far as I am concerned, it's good news. Now that EA is off the scene other studios can give a shot at sports gaming for PC.  For a football fan like me, that's great. Let's face it, even if titles were coming out, sports games for PC were dying as far as EA is concerned: poor quality games, no significant innovations from year to year, unrealistic gameplay, misunderstanding of the PC gamer interests...

Asten R. said:

Wow.  How shortsighted, disappointing, and

Madden wouldn't *be* 20 without the PC gamer community.  

Isn't porting PC<->360 supposed to be fairly straightforward?

I'm a PC gamer.  I play Madden on my PC.  You are actively throwing away customers from not only this game, but other EA games as well (both from an availability as well as protest angles)  -  which seems to be a much worse business case than Madden for the PC could ever be.

Jeff W. said:

I wish you wouldn't stop the PC version... It is what I love playing as I can not afford to shell out $50 per pop for the PS2 version of the game.  It has always been a game I looked forward to on the PC. Has anyone started a site yet for a petition to get the PC version back?

I'm curious as to whether or not we can contact EA directly and find out what we can do about this.

Thanks

Rich said:

"Oh cry me a river PC gamers.  My goodness, get over it.  Crying and whining is not going to change the outcome.  Besides, you guys have had a good run (20 years from what I've read).  So how can you complain after being supplied for so long w/ Madden?  Hell, those of us who game on the console have had to spend hundreds of dollars every 5 years for the newest console to get our football fix.  "

Whereas hardcore PC gamers will spend thousands in that same time frame... So what's your point?

Fish said:

i do hope this is an April Fool's joke.

nobody can argue that as a % the PC sales are wimpy compared to Xbox360 (those that are still running), but last August the PC Madden sales were somewhat comprable to the latest CIV4 expansion.

surely if take2 can be happy with those numbers, EA can be happy with PC sales numbers. It would be a mistake to simply view the PC sales numbers as being a small percentage of the whole, and not as significant income/sales/customers in and of itself.

i'm upset at the thought of losing madden for my PC. it looks better there (and i can make it look as good as i want based on what video card i choose to invest in, and video cards can be updated better than consoles that simply do not have the same graphics power), i don't have to take up the TV to play it (not ALL of us are college kids :), and i don't have to repurchase just because a console either updates or falls out of favor.

if it's true, this decision just doesn't make sense to me. and i'll miss madden.

but the joke is up now, right? RIGHT?! :)

Bill B said:

I just became a PC Gamer once again after buying a new XPS 420 Dell system, and you know what I love PC game more the consoles again. I was a 360 fanboy for the last few years,but with Direct X 10gaming I have been spending my money on the PC again.

In my view your decision is wrong and careless.. Don't tell me that crap of a Wii game will exist and not on the PC. Shame Shame Shame.

Bill B said:

BTW wher is the RSS feed for this blog?

Nick said:

I seriously dont understand you EA guys. You have a great fanbase at PC and u wont make it anymore. F*** Off!

Phil said:

you're all fucking idiots for not developing a PC version.. i hope u either realize you better do that or fucking go to hell.. jesus fucking christ

Adam said:

Very disappointing.

W said:

Something needs to be done to address the gaming situation on the PC platform.  Consoles such as PS3, WII, and Xbox 360 are owned by a majority of the gaming market.  A very small percentage of gamers use the PC platform.  EA Sports has to make sure that Madden is compatible with all the graphics cards out there as well as all of the different sound cards that are made.  You have different manufacturers of motherboards to contend with as well.  This just scratches the surface of what PC manufacturers face when developing a game such as Madden.  EA Sports is probably saving a LOT of money with this move.  They are saving considerably more than they would have made by selling the game.  They could have raised the price to offset the cost of producing the game.  How much complaining would see on this site if the PC version of Madden was raised to 75 dollars?-

The PC market for all games is shrinking.  There are very few games that are coming out exclusively for the PC.  I have watched this trend get worse over the years.  The gamers complaining on this site need to direct their anger/frustration towards the manufacturers and to Microsoft.  Make a gaming platform that doesn't have 1,000 potential different hardware configurations.  Make Windows Operating System conform to a stricter setup.  The best immediate solution is to hope that the consoles will continue to improve and continue to offer a good variety of games such as Madden.  Since EA Sports costs will decrease with this move, then console buyers could potentially see lower prices on future games such as Madden.  You have consoles that are capable of delivering HD quality football simulations that to an average person looks like a television broadcast.  

In conclusion don't blame EA Sports for cutting costs.  They have stockholders to answer to.  How much money are you making?  How many costs are you cutting?  Why are you offering a product on a medium that the majority of your consumers aren't using?  We would all do the same as presidents of EA Sports if we had to face stockholders.  The difference is that the majority of the complainers on this site refuse to admit that they would try to cut costs.  EA Sports is trying discontinue titles that don't sell very good and Madden on the PC fits into that category.  Madden 360 and PS3 outsell Madden on the PC easily.  I don't the stats. to back this up but it is true.  PS3, Xbox360 and WII platforms are growing market segments.  This means gamers are going out to buy these platforms to play the games offered on these platforms.  How many consumers are buying a gaming PC to play games?  This type of buyer is out there but there are more consumers buying the consoles.  I do not own a PS3 yet but I priced them during a break from school.  400  dollars for a PS3!!  Can I get a PC that game just as good for 400 dollars?  The answer is no.  PC gamers should get used to the idea that Tiger Woods for the PC will probably be discontinued in the future.  It is debatable whether this title sells more on PC or not.  

Some of the visitors to this site will  accuse me of working for EA/EA Sports and that is cool.  I would love the opportunity to make high-quality gaming products in the sports industries for the biggest company in gaming today.  I listen to sports talk radio on a daily basis and I attend college football games in the fall at Texas A&M university.  Sports is my passion so that is why I put so much effort into my posts to this website.  My post today did not address any new ideas for the EA Sports products but my other posts have been primarily about improving the football franchises.  Peter Moore can pay me for my defense of the EA company position by producing a kick-a$$ NCAA 09 game and a kick-a$$ Madden game as well.  I am looking forward to getting both on the 360 and this will be plenty of payment for me.  

Thank you,

W

TheDude said:

This is a banner day EA - the PC game has sucked for years - It's an inferior product for PC but, lets talk seriously for a second.  How many of you ACTUALLY BOUGHT the game in 2007? In 2008?  Everyone here knows people that have stolen the game and they are allowed to play in PC leagues.  No protection for EA, just why pay for it if we don't have to.  Well guess what PC Pirates, EA has stopped your theft.  Maybe if the so-called PC leagues & loyalists had standards, this wouldn't be happening.  The only way EA can be sure people are paying for the game & getting it legally is to do this & again I say BRAVO.  Programmers unite, someone is taking a stand!  

"I run a PC league since the year of ork, so keep making the game"  "I charge to make PC League web sites & for website hosting so keep making the game"   "I charge for admission to my league, so keep making the game"   Thats EA's focus, keeping the website builders in business, making sure guys get the money per head to keep running their leagues.   The hippocracy in this thread is roll on the floor funny.  

This has been coming for a looong time, the handwriting has been on the wall guys.  It's about money plain & simple, not the 300 PC league guys.  Do you really think EA makes enough off of the 300, 500, 1,000 PC players to make it profitable to accomodate 3 operating systems, 100 different graphics boards, the many different configurations of PC's in the Madden universe?  Then add in the theft...

There are just plain not enough games SOLD for it to be profitable for EA anymore.  

blackoutben said:

Wow

This is great, another shot at the Madden PC community, every year you guys where taking something from us and now this year, you guys decided to go str8 for the throat and cut it.

I really do not understand, does anybody at EA research things before they do it? I mean all of the Madden leagues that on the NET and you are still going to do this?

Is EA going to improve the league aspect of the Xbox or PS3? I doubt it, more than likely they will feed us the same old junk and say "Hey guys, now do you still miss the PC verison?"

The real people you are disappointing are the people that have spent days and weeks working on these leagues and websites deicated to Madden.

I would like to know how many people here play Madden year round all of the time on a console? I know almost all of PC leaguers play Madden year round.

Please reconsider this desicion to not produce the PC Verison of Madden.

Thanks.

blackoutben said:

Wow

This is great, another shot at the Madden PC community, every year you guys where taking something from us and now this year, you guys decided to go str8 for the throat and cut it.

I really do not understand, does anybody at EA research things before they do it? I mean all of the Madden leagues that on the NET and you are still going to do this?

Is EA going to improve the league aspect of the Xbox or PS3? I doubt it, more than likely they will feed us the same old junk and say "Hey guys, now do you still miss the PC verison?"

The real people you are disappointing are the people that have spent days and weeks working on these leagues and websites deicated to Madden.

I would like to know how many people here play Madden year round all of the time on a console? I know almost all of PC leaguers play Madden year round.

Please reconsider this desicion to not produce the PC Verison of Madden.

Thanks.

M said:

It's all about the Pentiums.

Nuclear said:

Get used to it guys. The startegy for gaming (and probably all other software as well) is to eventually make it so you do not own the title- only rent it. This is the first step. I presume you will have to pay for some service to play against other people. Eventually, you won't ever get a disc at all. You will just log on to some very expensive service through the PC or console and play there. These guys are looking to maximize revenue as all businesses do.

Fear said:

This is ridiculous. It's not that difficult to port Madden 09 to PC and even if you lose a few thousand dollars you make so much on the other platforms does it matter? Another thing is you can blame the poor production values for EA PC titles lack of sales over the last 3 years.

Courtesy of Gamespot

Madden 08 PS3 & 360 - 8.5

Madden 08 PC - 6.5

Rank on PC: 578 of 9,592

Imagine if this game was rated 8.5 then it would be in the top 100.

Also the Head Coach game would sell better on the PC but since it's only available as part of the Collectors Edition package it must have the same poor production values as the last game in the series.

This is clearly a poor business decision and not a good PR decision as well.

timicanada said:

I have been playing madden PC for 8 years now. There is no way Im gonna buy a console version. The quality and the online experience is no where close of what we get with the pc version. Mr. Scareface said it all read his post...

Diharduncfan said:

 I glad to see you say this to someone.  Click on link below.

arstechnica.com/.../peter-moore-calls-for-change-at-ea-sports

 Now, if I can get you change the way you beta test games, your company will be back on track.

Di

Ghost Dog said:

Really? No PC version? Well, I'm not going to buy it for my Wii or my PSP now, either. Lame.

Brady H. said:

I laugh at these ps3 and xbox360 people, the Pc version would crush the consoles if EA put some effort in to it. Imagine a madden that supports DX10 and actually uses the PC's potential. Even a midrange PC will blow doors on the consoles if the dev's had some ambition. Yes, there are more console gamers than PC gamers for sports supposedly, but how do you expect madden to sell well when features on the pc are left out and all you get is a roster update for your money and graphics form 04. All I know is you better not give the axe to Tiger Woods. That is one game sports game that is clearly suited to the PC. Mouse = realistc golf ball flights. PS3 and Xbox = pressing backspin in the air. LOL

Beals said:

Someone needs to make a I Hate EA Sports website. I'm willing to donate money towards it

newman said:

most of the people on this thread will buy the game ported from current gen.  if you're that worried about sales then give it a new engine.  obviously people who don't have consoles are going to be customers that you lose and also a lot of the people in the online pc leagues are people who have consoles but bought the game for pc anyway because of the quality of online play.  personally i don't have a console and i won't buy one to play madden.  and definitely not if you don't improve the league function.  if you're gonna release it for ps2 you might as well make it for pc.  does anyone else wonder why the nfl would give them an exclusive license?  make a pc version or be destroyed.

Robby said:

Mr. Moore,  

I was so excited when you came over to EA Sports because I thought you would take your "Games for Windows" campaign from Microsoft to a higher level and enchance PC gaming even further with EA Sports.

However I never expected you to head in the opposite direction and kill it.

I had such high hopes for you.  What a disappointment.  You really let me down.  

As with the others (not out of emotion or rebellion) I am not buying a console just to play Madden or any other EA title.

Check off another lost customer on your list. (If you haven't run out of ink by now)

STRUTTDADDY said:

If EA would have done SOMETHING to further the development of the game (it's been nothing but a roster update each year since 05, and WE IN THE COMMUNITY DO A WAY BETTER JOB THAN THE "EXPERTS" YOU HAVE) then they would have SOLD more copies.....your sales may have dropped because PC GAMERS aren't stupid and WON'T PAY for the exact same game each year when they can get a USER created roster update themselves.

You can get away with releasing a crappy product to console players because the majority of them are younger and don't know any better.  "Oh there is a new guy on the cover!!!! I Want That Game!"  Or "Yes a new Madden game, let me find the glitches and cheese so I can be on a TV show on ESPN!"

PC Gamers are a different breed than console players.  We actually want realism.  PC GAMERS have gotten so fed up with your pathetic excuse for a new game each year WE HAVE DEVELOPED MODS to IMPROVE YOUR GAME.  Without US you would have barely had ANY sales the past couple of seasons.

You OWE it to the PC gamers to bring Madden on the PC back.  If not this year, then VERY SOON!  

BUT when you do bring it back, bring back something new!  Not the same version you've had since 05!

Daniel said:

Of course you feel that "the PC presents some very serious business challenges" and it's only because you release crappy versions of your sports title for Pc. What the hell happened with the NHL 08 (which is the same shitty game that nhl06)???

Why not port the nhl08 next-gen consoles over the PC. Hell, graphic chipsets of consoles are at least 2y/o, you'll never convince me that a 8800 gtx or even a 8800 GT 512 mb couldn't run that game. And you dare talk about a serious business challenge !???? If you'd start by giving us PC gamers the EXACT SAME F****NG version as the console one, only then you wont see any serious business challenge.

Every year since 3-4 years you release crappy version of your sports titles on pc, which to me says a big F**K YOU to pc gamers. You hardly give supports (patches) for your games when soooo many other developpers gets out patches frequently like for example the game sins of solar empire. The game's been out for like 2 months and its been already graced with 3-4 patches (about the same amount of patches for the last 3 nhl games WTF).

You are responsible for your own demise and being the money grubbing bitches that you EA people are, no wonder you see serious business challenges. You dont put in the effort, you dont put in the features like on consoles, you dont put in the support in form of several patches, hence you dont sell any games on pc because U SUCK SO HARD.

You better not put the hax on the nhl franchise (which by the way PUT U ON THE MAP ON THE PC MARKET for sports) or ill go to your Montreal offices and put a bomb under your seat, if you ever dare show yourself there (one of the leading city for gaming developpers)

STRUTTDADDY said:

THIS IS WHAT PETER MOORE ACTUALLY WANTED TO TYPE IN HIS BLOG MESSAGE:

"We knew that our decision to not develop this year’s Madden for the PC would be an unpopular decision with our most informed customers. But I’ll reiterate what I said a couple of weeks ago in this space… the PC presents some very serious business challenges to us in the sports category, particularly because so many of you are smart enough to know that we have only presented you with inferior or retread products over the past few years that didn't take advantage of the platform strengths in almost any way. We have been committed to shipping only these inferior ports with degraded features to the PC. We do have ideas how to extract cash from PC sports gamers in the future with our exclusive rights league contracts, and we’ll continue to explore those."

Gommer 44 said:

Ea Fucks Customers #143

zanth91 said:

You're a FREAKIN IDIOT you know that? I swear to NEVER buy ANOTHER EA GAME in my LIFE. I've been liking 2K and I think I'll stick with it now. I hope the NFL NEVER signs another FREAKIN AGREEMENT so EA can COWARD and have NO COMPETITION to FORCE THEM to make a BETTER PRODUCT. If there WAS competition, the the game would OBVIOUSLY be on the PC but you IDIOTS leave us in the DARK all because you can. We'll BREAK you MARKET that's what we'll do.

PC Gamers said:

I dare U to port ps3 of FIFA09 to PC version this year or make PC version more beautiful than the ps3 version.. & see how that product sell.. believe me PM u are making serious bad decision. when people start to boycott your product.. U r the one to be blame..

Dizzle said:

Madden 09 would have done well, if it was based on the same architecture as the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions.  Since 2006, Madden and NBA Live 06 has been treated like a second class citizen on the PC.  WE HAVE THE HARDWARE, You must build the game to make use of that hardware.  EA, YOU GUYS FUMBLED ON THE ONE YARD LINE!!!

ninjagoat said:

I just cant understand how we are always being landed with second rate titles next to the next gen versions of the game is it because we don't pay for "DLC" i don't know all i know is my pc can run crysis at very very high lvls of detail a game that outstrips FIFA Madden by quite some way so surely i could handle the next gen version on my PC. EA are looking at a boycott fairy soon if you ask me anything I'm raged with this decision to hold back a game that i would have gladly paid for stupidity tbh.

Former EA Customer #12345 said:

Talk about stabbed in the back. I have absolutely no plans of buying a ps3 or xbox360 or any other console, so I guess I can go *** myself huh?

Wow, just wow.

Gamers Unite said:

Peter Moore

Maybe this is bad decision.. but i see your point.. how bout this year ea sports start making great FIFA09 for PC better than the console version.. this will bring back the confident of the PC gamers to EA sports at least and i believe PC version sell going to be great..

i play games both from console version and pc and if they are boycotting ea sports we  gamers unite with boycotting ea sports product also.. u need to learn to appreciate the gamers.

"gamers always right"

THIS YEAR I ANNOUNCE TO ALL OF YOU THE WINNER IN SPORTS GAMING PRODUCT IS 2K!!!

Strutt said:

To all you 2K fans (myself included).  It's only a matter of months before EA bullies them into selling to them.

Lets face it EA is a monopoly and only care about cornering the market.  Hey without competition, you have the only product....you WILL make money because you have NO competition since they have all the "exclusive deals" (which was the worst possible thing to happen to sports gaming EVER).  

Sports loving consumers have no choice but to buy from EA and it's a damn shame.  They will continue to put out an inferior product just because they can.  Who else will compete with them?

It's a damn shame, but big money corporations only care about the bottom line and NOT THE CONSUMER, like it should be.  I just wish most gamers were smart enough to call EA out on their BS. THEY ARE RUINING THE SPORTS GAMING WORLD!!!!! YOU WILL NEVER SEE ADVANCEMENT IF THEY KEEP MONOPOLIZING THIS MARKET!  ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS MAKING MONEY, NOT IMPROVING THEIR GAMES!!!!!!!!!

Iz Rick 585 said:

Mr. Moore,

 I promise you, I garantee you...

  Madden NFL '09 will hit a record low in sales this year. Sir, your console gamers are upset with your substantially sub-par product, your PC gamers now have no product, and EA Sports public image takes yet another monumental step backward. As a business owner, as a gamer, and as an avid football fan I see nothing good when I see your brand of business, and consumer relations. Bad Move!

If it means playing a EA Sports title...I'd rather not play sports games.

EvilMoose said:

If you're not going to make a PC version of Madden this year can you at least give up that exclusive license so that someone else can?

Oh wait, that'll make you guys look bad if someone releases a superior product for that platform.

Ed said:

This is ridiculous and an act pure greediness. Thanks for using us to get your company to your current mega monster size and now scrapping a whole platform based on the bigger benefits you guys get from the console world. Also thanks for destroying so many game studios over the years.

Every action carries a reaction. Dont forget this.

Burt Reynolds said:

Bad move Peter, now you forced me to play my hand. I am sorry to tell you this, but you will not be getting any premiere tickets to my remake of cannonball run. Or any more "favors" from me. Now my  PC will rot.

BR

ALEX said:

I have been a loyal customer to Madden/EASQUARE/SquareENIX. I will never buy another product from your company if you do not release Madden on PC. I will not play your games either. There are plenty of quality games where your bloody hands have not touched or destroyed with your politics. I will make everyone else aware of your business practices. What are you going to do when the next consoles become obsolete? PCs are upgradeable, consoles are not. so instead of one Microsoft tax  about every 5 years, you are forcing upon your customers a sony tax, a Nintendo Tax, a hardware crap tax. Consoles have obsolete hardware the second they are released. look at the advances in processors and GPUs, and how the technology has become cheaper than ever. Why would I spend 600 dollars for a PS3 that i can get a better computer with upgradability? Why would I 500 for a 360 that is  known to be faulty?

ALEX said:

with virtualization technology taking off, it will only be a matter of time before someone virtualizes the next gen consoles, then you leave a market with no other option than piracy, 500-650 for console and game, or free?

SHAWN crowsenmity@aol.com said:

YOU HAVE CHOOSEN TO GET RID OF THE PC VERSION ON THE 20th ANNIVERSARY!?!  WHAT A SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE PC COMMUNITY...... IM 38 AND HAVE BOUGHT EVERY VERSION OF MADDEN....THANKS FOR BREAKING MY STREAK! I HAVE THREE BOYS AND EVERY SYSTEM EXCEPT THE PS3 AND I WONT BUY MADDEN FOR ANY OF THEM!<--dont feel like fighting with the kids for thier systems!  THANKS EA FOR NOTHING. I HEAR THAT A BOYCOTT IS IN MOTION OVER THIS AND I HOPE THE BOYCOTT WORKS AND YOU SEE A SERIOUS DROP IN MADDEN 09 SALES.  THE LEAST YOU CAN DO FOR US IS GIVE US A FREAKIN ROSTER UPDATE SO THE MANY, MANY GREAT LEAGUES LIKE http://www.str8mfl.net/ CAN CONTINUE TO RUN ON THE OLD VERSION.................THATS THE ONLY VERSION I WILL PLAY TILL THE PC IS BACK! AND YOU BETTER BRING IT BACK.......THANKS FOR SCREWING US ON YOUR 20TH ANNIVERSARY..........JERKS!

Dman said:

WOW you guys SUCK

EA you have the bank roll of the world and now this?

I have every copy ever made on my desk........who says people only play these games on consoles is full of hot air.

Thank you for another kick in the nuts.

TomC said:

EA is just another lazy development house who decided to bite the hand feeding it. The PC market is actually much more lucrative, more prone to innovation and definitely more capable than the console market. Everyone has a PC. I don't own a PS3/Wii/Xbox360, and I'm not looking to either. And hey, while you're at it, if the Xbox360 or PS3 can do it, so can the PC. Stop porting games from consoles to the PC and stripping out the cool eye candy and graphics. Not every home PC is a 386.

Ex-EA fan said:

This is the perfect example of why an exclusive license is bad for the public. The NFL don't care because they've more interested in receiving a larger sum of money from an exclusive license, and EA has no competition to worry about and can do as it pleases. Ultimately it is the American football fan who suffers.

I'm not surprised that the PC version is not selling well. When you put so little effort into the PC version what do you expect? Basing it on the PS2 version is just plain lazy and irresponsible to both the casual and hardcore NFL fans. The PC is more than capable of matching and surpassing the console versions.

With EA trying to build a massive gaming empire by taking over more and more gaming companies, I think they've become a bureaucratic monster who are sorely only interested in money - gamers are dead last in their list of priorities. I'll be refusing to buy any new EA games to show my utter disgust at this latest decision by EA.

DaveKacz said:

I didn't read all the comments here, but there are two other reasons I believe caused Madden to be dropped from the PC:

1.  I think the Madden series is terrible.  I haven't enjoyed the series in years.  They need to rework it from top to bottom.  Scrapping the PC version to eliminate one less development nightmare is worth it.  Please also drop the Nintendo DS and PSP versions as well.  Focus all efforts on PS3, 360, and Wii.

2.  The fact is that majority of PC users are thieves.  I am sure the number of people playing Madden PC online and the number of people who actually bought the game differ greatly...

Mr.Scarface said:

DaveKacz,

You are an IDIOT.   The almost ALL of the PC Madden players buy the game.  We encouraged it for league play simply to support EA and make it worth their while to continue making Madden for the PC.  Don't OPEN YOUR MOUTH, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

GoEagles said:

Worst news and dumbest business decision I heard about this year.

The monopoly always creates monsters.

At least be decent and remove the message that appears when the game starts and states something like: "On-line matchmaking not guaranteed after August 2008. Look for Madden 09..."

Sometimes I wonder if you guys who call yourselfs "Project Managers" and "Decision Makers" ever try your own products and do some real target audience studies.

What you guys seem not to understand is that not everyone is 12 and likes to use a gamepad style controller. I always used the mouse and keyboard as a gaming controller and I will continue to do so. I am doing it for almost 20 years and it will not change. The Wii controller is a revolutionary device but is not quite fit for playing a Madden or FIFA on it.

The bottom line is that the more you will alienate the PC comunity the business will probably tank in some segments. Most of the late 20 and 30-year olds are PC gamers (because this is what we had when we were teens) and also they have the income and the drive to buy new products when they come out (early adopters how they are called in Marketing). I know that the kids and the teens are your favorite target but I am not sure that all the parents (who still manage the funds) will rush out to put a 500$ investment for a console plus accessories just because you decided to change the business model. As a plus, do you want your kids to be couch patatoes and take over your big screen TV in the living room? I guess not...

Yuleluder said:

Sounds like they have really cut themselves out of alot of money by discontinuing the PC version.  Mr. Moore could you please name those poeple in your company who advocated discarding the PC platform?  I will never buy a 360 or a PS3.  Why would I waste all that money on something that can only do one thing, gaming.  My PC has way more potential then the 360 or PS3 will ever have.  Look I can even type unhappy messages to you from my PC!  

Check out some of the legues I have belonged to for years now.  

http://amfl.leaguepulse.com/

http://omfl.leaguepulse.com/

The PC platform houses some of the most dedicated madden ballers out there.  I play 5-6 online games a week vs dedicated madden ballers.  These guys have played this game religously for years.  We are not your usual crowd of casual players.  We have helped shape this game over the years, and now you dump us like yesterdays garbage.  You still have the chance to do the right thing and bring back the PC version for 2009.  At the very least give us the ability to edit the 2008 version, as most of will be playing this version for the rest of our days.  Please do not leave us out in the cold!!!

Downtowners said:

This is the hockey league i have been in for 7 years.  The league is in its 8th season.

http://www.sinbin.ca/

This goes just beyond the Madden title.    I am in a madden league but I dont have the URL either.

But something has to be done.   Dont let the PC games die!!!!!!!!

Joe Dunkleman said:

I NEVER liked you Peter Moore. I never bought an XBOX because of you, and I NEVER will buy ANOTHER EA Product as long as I play video games.

Dennis P said:

I can't believe even EA sports was grow tired of re packaging the same old pc games year after year and charging another $39.99. I guess costs for reprinting that box with some different cover art is getting expensive.... What's next big oil will grow tired of their Billion dollar profits and just give the gas away. Now that EA has most of the sports licenses they will tell the masses what you will play and how you will play it...

rich meehan said:

I cannot believe you would not produce a PC based Madden, that is ridiculous, please, please, please tell me this is a joke?  I personally PREFER the PC based game over the console, please reconsider, taking this action will obviously not help revive the PC market, but rather deteriorate it even more.

Nathan said:

Im glad, the EA Sports games on the PC for the past 6 years have been dreadful, not that the new gimmicks didn't work, but that it has been the same game for 6 years, from madden to fifa, its a disgrace to release the same game year after year.

voltageme5 said:

now if we can just get EA to stop making madden for the other platforms as well, we'll be in good shape. Madden hasn't been worth the sticker price for quite some time.

Adam A said:

Honestly, I can understand, financially, why you might duck out of PC gaming in sports. There's been a slight decline in sales, from what I've noticed over the years, in PC sports games.

That's understandable.

That said, you can't expect people to keep buying a rehashed product year after year. EA's excuse has always been that people don't upgrade their computers often, so they can't upgrade their game engine. That's simply untrue. There are plenty of people with computer able to run next gen games. My $1100 PC I bought 3 years ago is equally, or more powerful than an Xbox 360. The tech in my PC is being sold for 1/4 of what I paid for it now. It's the same crappy argument Nintendo used about not enough people being interested in online gaming. It's not true, and people aren't so easily fooled.

The real problem is spending money porting games, and keeping a team to work on patching the product in the early going. Costs money, and on consoles, you can get away with delaying patch releases.

I, for one, didn't ever play madden games on my PC. I'm an NHL kind of guy myself, and seeing Madden leave the ranks gives me a clear impression that there won't be an NHL game for the PC. After years of you guys telling PC gamers to "wait another year for next gen", you pull a fast one and undercut us. Bravo.

The lack of development time on EA hockey games is pretty easy to see. Each year, since 2005, there have been subtle changes in the game, along with UI, soundtrack and roster changes. Each year, I've bought the game, and  laid in wait for a month or so until the Mod community came up with some tools so I could fix what was wrong(as much fixing as I could do, that is). I didn't have too much of a problem. A lot of small changes would add up to turning the game into something very enjoyable. So needless to say, I was always pretty hyped about a next-gen version of the game, with a stronger engine, better physics(thus better goalies), and a better Dynasty/Franchise mode experience, to go along with the mod community.

Instead, I'm kicked to the curb and told to buy a console version of the game if I want to play it. I have a 360 and a Wii. I don't want to play the 360 version because I can't edit your game, and I have a sneaking feeling the Wii version will be the PS2/PC NHL08 with a new roster and wii-exclusive controls.  

So if you're going to stop making PC sports games, put some time and effort into making your game more customizable for those who want to play the game it should be. Make a mod tool, or a profile manager system that prevents people with edited AI and etc. stuff from going online. Give us some kind of option to edit. We PC sports gamers don't have much left. Some of us don't have anything left to play, after our years of buying your rehashes and waiting for some kind of return.

I mean, if you're buying Take 2 and their 2k series, and swallowing those up, you have a monopoly. They can't grab at your marketshare on PC. Throw us a bone.

David said:

I was hoping that the new Head Coach game would be on the Pc and I was willing to the madden 09 and Head Coach package. I love to play the games when I travel. Well so much for that. I got dropped on the xbox and now on the pc. I just can not win. I have no plans to buy the xbox or the ps3. Pc sport is dead. if there is no football forget it!

Mark G said:

"2.    We knew that our decision to not develop this year’s Madden for the PC would be an unpopular decision in some circles.  But I’ll reiterate what I said a couple of weeks ago in this space…the PC presents some very serious business challenges to us in the sports category, particularly because so many of you all are playing your favorite sports games on the PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii.  We are committed to shipping a limited number of our games on the PC this year, but we’ve also had to cut a few of our games from the platform.  We do have ideas for how to revitalize the PC for sports games and the types of games that are best suited to the platform, and we’ll continue to explore those."

So basically what you are telling us is that its not enough that you dictate we buy a ps3 or 360 in order to continue to play what amounts to be a simple roster upgrade but now you further state that we have ideas how to revitalize the PC...Please pray tell how do you figure to revitalize? As for types of games suited for PC we arent interested in those...we are interested in madden for PC.

"the PC presents some very serious business challenges to us in the sports category, particularly because so many of you all are playing your favorite sports games on the PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii."

The reason so many are playing on gaming consoles is because its a console conspiracy...Let me let you on a little secret long before precious gaming consoles we had PCs and very powerful ones I might add. The gaming consoles of today cant hold a candle to my recent custom built pc rig and I did it for less that what I would have paid for a console. I run madden in highest resolution possible and my pc doesnt even blink. The bottomline is when one is forced to buy a console you are at mercy of manufacturer of these as well as gaming company but when I choose my pc as my gaming console Im in control and decide when and where I upgrade not some sniveling console manufacture. Its all one big cash cow that i refuse to bow down to... I hope you enjoy your little decision

DownWithEA said:

Wow... just wow... my buddy and I have played Madden on the PC for like 8 years now...  LOL forget EA, its just one thing after another...  The last time i said I wouldnt buy another EA game was the last time... I havent boughten one since.  Every chance i get i tell people how messed up EA games is and what they do to good franchises they purchase.

Just look at what they did to the C&C franchise.

I dont really understand how EA can hold the NFL game license and decide just not to produce a PC version of the game... I wonder what that contract says?

Andreas Dahl said:

Horrible news for a LOT of people. And I get the feeling that you have no idea how big the "PC scene" really is. You have greatly under-estemated it, and this is going to hurt you so bad..

(One can only hope you won't make such a decision for the NBA Live series.)

Wardel Smith said:

Well they lost ANOTHER CUSTOMER!!!!!!.  If EA and Sony or Microsoft  think I'm gonna buy the xbox 360 or ps3 just play Madden, they got another thought come and it won't be mine or MY DOLLARS,  I have waited every year for the pc version and stood in lines at MIDNIGHT for it and now Mr. Moore and the people at EA think that its cost effective to eliminate the pc version so they can make you buy the 360 or the Wii or ps3 gaming systems.  Bullshit, nothing but Bullshit.  Thank you Mr. Moore and the people at EA for shitting on pc game player of the world!!

Wade said:

Well this is the true end of the adult EA gamer, you know, the people who have jobs and can afford to buy your games.  You cut the PC versions out (even NFL Head Coach for Heaven sakes) and there is apparently no coach mode yet again in NCAA 09 or it would've been mentioned.  I really had faith that you would turn things around Peter but I was dead wrong.  I wish now that you would've singed on with the cartoon network as that's where you belong.  

Dean said:

You guys gave up on the PC along time ago porting over the previous years crap.  We still bought it in the hopes you guys would deliver an updated experience for us someday.  I'm very disappointed as I'd never own a console, I have a high end gaming PC.  I guess my biggest disappointment is that you'd develop based on pure greed. It's all about the money and where the biggest bang for your buck is.  Developers like Crytek realize there is much more they can do with a PC.  Why not develop for the high end PC and scale back for the consoles?  We all know a console cannot touch a high end PC still the PCs get ported crap.  

I'll never be a customer again until there is a PC version, I hope more PC gamers will take the same stand and avoid getting consolitis.  I'll be enjoying Crysis - losers.

DijiDiji said:

Let's face it, sales for PC Madden have been sub-par because the product on offer has been sub-par.  If you would port the 360/PS3 engine to the PC instead of the XBOX/PS2 engine, you would instantly see a sales bump.  For minimal investment.  Would it be enough to make it finacially viable?  I don't know, but I suggest that it is worth trying over a single product cycle in order to find out.

And frankly, EA could use the positive PR.

DijiDiji said:

Additionally, as others have suggested, you could use the PC community for 'beta testing' new features.

MagicMan said:

No Madden for the PC.  This had better be a joke!

PC Madden Josh said:

How the heck can you make a post like that Mr. Moore on April 1st?  C'mon, any other day of the year but that!  Now we have to either sit on what is a terrible prank, or what could be actual news.  I'm definitely guilty of falling for this prank if it is in fact one, but wtf, you can't make a post like that on April Fools Day.  I guess we'll have to wait for the "April Fools" confirmation or at least see another official confirmation from you on any other day but 4/1.  I'm imaginining ripping open the cellophane at 12:01 on launch date and doing 90mph to get home and pop in the DVD rom.  Also, my work will find it very weird I am not sick the day after Madden comes out this year.  

European Waste said:

Unbelievable... Living in a  land of dinosaurs where the PC community is still strong (irrelevant territory in Europe), I am shocked about my favorite game not being released on PC. I understand the reasons, but honestly ... It sucks....

I just hope some PC focussed competitors will arise and force you back into that area. Well, probably this turns out to be good for us because the franchise mode and so many other PC related features where designed so awful that maybe someone else shows you how to do it...

For you Mr Moore, working for the two most arrogant and customer unfriendy companies, I see a bright future in this industry...

Cheers

ALEX said:

if  we could get  a group of people  to start a boycott of all ea products. email me at boycotteanow@googlemail.com if you wish to help start a group.

old timmer said:

you know i have supported your company ever since its inception i purchased every madden and for the last 6 yrs its been on the pc it was 3 yrs ago when you got the exclusive that i started to worry having no other companys being able to make any sport game is bad not everyone loves ea sports or madden. i love madden on pc even went as far as building a top gamming rig in hopes that next gen would finaly come to my pc only to get my heart riped out because you see it as not enough money well if you would have just given us what consoles had the sales would have warranted it. now we have no options wich is crazy. the pc community isa strong were more into league play and improving the game threw tools. all these years you made the pc version and we hardly could mod the files like uniforms or helmets or anything really since your done with that engine and since you have made alot of us mad why not show some good faith and say ok here is the tools you need so you can open the files and mod them and create textures there is no harm in doing that you owe us that much for this terrible news who knows you might even sell more pc copies as well. we have allways wanted to make are own uniforms and such like fifa can but never could. you have let alot of people down and i mean alot . also madden is tested and created on a pc the next gen version that is how hard is it to port over that its not hard at all look i dont mind paying the 60 bucks or whatever its never been about  the price its just we never got a fair shake all we wanted was next gen and never got it so how can you say the market is not there the employes will tell you all that you want to hear but the truth and the truth is we are aware of what they were doing and that is slapping a cover on a box giving a roster update and calling it the next yrs game.

still let me say release the tools so we can open the files and actually keep the game going untill you come back to the pc market thats not alot to ask and will go along ways in retrieving alot of us when you return because we have tons of web sites and leagues were not going to run out and get 360s to  play madden its just not going to happen.

Vanilla Ike said:

It would seem that the PC gaming helps drive PC sales. I've spent at least a thousand more dollars each three years to get the gaming PC. It’s been worth every penny because of not having to play on EASO with folks you don’t know or quit or cheat. The PC gamer understands etiquette. They do or no one will allow them in their league.

The PC gave me a chance to meet adults and play with adults. Using instant messenger software I've been able to meet some great people, they can send me a link to there family photos, business or an article they are reading. The forums have been a great place to blog and talk football.

I can't buy and play the console because it would tie up the television that my family enjoys watching while I’m gaming.

Well if I've ever been looking for a reason to stop gaming, looks like I've got one now. No need to buy nice PCs, Game controllers, video cards, etc. Now that’s helping the economy!

Mike said:

Well, I think this is a real kick in the chops to a very loyal Madden Community. I'm sure down the road, this decision will cost someone their job as it will mark the beginning of the end for EA sports. Why should anyone invest into a product that has offered such poor customer service and committment to its buyers?

I suppose though this could be a good thing for the PC online football Community. Someone else on the outside of EA will grab that market and run with it, and we will be there with our money and time to support it. I will not be buying anymore EA products. I will thugh support every rival PC Football game that comes out as my little voice saying "I told you so"....

Very disappointing EA

DOLFANMIKE said:

EA is making a big mistake. This decision will haunt EA and may mark a significant shift in how customers think about buying EA products. I have ran one of the longest standing Madden leagues on the Net, and frankly as a league we have decided to boycott EA products. We've also decided to not only support other PC football games but we have a development team within our league and the financial backing to make it happen.

Regardless of if it's us or someone else, there is a quality market out there for PC football, and the most loyal fanbase a marketing effort could ask for. I suppose I should thank you for pushing us into doing what we have discussed doing for some time. PC football isn't dying, it's just going to get better because competition will make it so that the same old game isn't being released year after year like what EA has been dishing out for the last 6 years.

gi joe said:

Alex forget a boycott of ea sports games its not going to work. Here is what would work though

start a petition on ea sports  anti trust monopoly  write it up in a great way then have everyone sign it. Then pick like 10 people have them go to all the madden sites that they belong and post a link to yours after you get alot of people to sign it,then you get the e-mail addy of every congressman and senator you mass message them then you send it to every major news paper editor i can gaurantee it will get news and give them a black eye as well as investigation into the accusations . plus if there being investigated they cant purchase Take 2 because no shareholder would agree to a merger while being investigated.

there about done with the steriod crap so they need something else and it wouldnt suprise me to see them run with it. you see they dont realize that there is more money made in the video game industry than all the movies made in hollywood every year that my friend is alot of money

i would be willing to help you can contact me at madmaxmad1966@yahoo.com

robert kennedy :)

Boo_Hoo_PC_Players said:

WORD MEN - THIS IS THE TRUTH-

I didn't read all the comments here, but there are two other reasons I believe caused Madden to be dropped from the PC:

1.  I think the Madden series is terrible.  I haven't enjoyed the series in years.  They need to rework it from top to bottom.  Scrapping the PC version to eliminate one less development nightmare is worth it.  Please also drop the Nintendo DS and PSP versions as well.  Focus all efforts on PS3, 360, and Wii.

2.  The fact is that majority of PC users are thieves.  I am sure the number of people playing Madden PC online and the number of people who actually bought the game differ greatly...

AND MORE TRUTH

This is a banner day EA - the PC game has sucked for years - It's an inferior product for PC but, lets talk seriously for a second.  How many of you ACTUALLY BOUGHT the game in 2007? In 2008?  Everyone here knows people that have stolen the game and they are allowed to play in PC leagues.  No protection for EA, just why pay for it if we don't have to.  Well guess what PC Pirates, EA has stopped your theft.  Maybe if the so-called PC leagues & loyalists had standards, this wouldn't be happening.  The only way EA can be sure people are paying for the game & getting it legally is to do this & again I say BRAVO.  Programmers unite, someone is taking a stand!  

"I run a PC league since the year of ork, so keep making the game"  "I charge to make PC League web sites & for website hosting so keep making the game"   "I charge for admission to my league, so keep making the game"   Thats EA's focus, keeping the website builders in business, making sure guys get the money per head to keep running their leagues.   The hippocracy in this thread is roll on the floor funny.  

This has been coming for a looong time, the handwriting has been on the wall guys.  It's about money plain & simple, not the 300 PC league guys.  Do you really think EA makes enough off of the 300, 500, 1,000 PC players to make it profitable to accomodate 3 operating systems, 100 different graphics boards, the many different configurations of PC's in the Madden universe?  Then add in the theft...

There are just plain not enough games SOLD for it to be profitable for EA anymore.  

Totally agree Dude - Notice how no one has anything to say about the stealing of the game - just the crybabies.  EA IS NOT CUTTING THEMSELVES OUT OF $$$ - THEY ARE SAVING MONEY BY NOT HAVING TO CONFIGURE FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT PC'S IN EXISTANCE -  THE SAME 100-200 LEAGUE PLAYERS KEEP POSTING HERE - IT REALLY IS FUNNY

The below list is a crybabies hall of fame

DOLFANMIKE

Vanilla Ike

PC Madden Josh

MagicMan

DownWithEA

Yuleluder

madmaxmad1966

Mr.Scarface (MAYBE THE BIGGEST IDIOT TO SIT IN FRONT OF A PC)

blackoutben (ANOTHER GUY TOO DUMB TO WAIT FOR THE POST TO SHOW UP - HE HAD TO WRITE IT TWICE) And this guy develops web sites lol

THE GAME IS STOLEN WAAAAY TOO OFTEN ON PC BOYS - Jeez this groups is like a box of ROCKS - It's not about your leagues or you and your buddy playing PC madden - IT'S ABOUT $$$ and it's not worth EA's time to develop the PC version any more - BUILD A BRIDGE GUYS, GET OVER IT!    

boo hoo the dope said:

have you ever herd of a code meter un breakable. you talk of piracy you prolly one who didnt buy it stupid fool i can bet your online league is a joke too.

LeftCoastDood said:

Just wanted to add another voice to the many saying what an all around garbage decision.

I will also agree that this '...difficult PC games market...' might have something to do with the fact that you (EA Sports) have been marketing and selling, for a number of consecutive years, an inferior product.  The real kicker is that even though you marketed and sold us that inferior Madden game year after year, AND did a miserable job supporting that product, several loyal customers (self included), year after consecutive year, bought the latest incarnation of Madden.

Your unspoken analysis is right on the money Mr. Peter Moore, PC sports gaming is a niche market.  The almost 200 posts of outrage you see here so far are because EA Sports haven`t even attempted to try to exploit that market.  Instead you`ve offered up a half-assed product, offered even worse support for that half-assed prodcut and just like any other major industry in any other market, you`re customers grew tired of buying that half-assed product, grew tired of the lack of support and the overall sales numbers started a decline.  Imagine that.

Instead of making the decision to bite the bullet and sink some money into that niche market and realizing any kind of potential or even a lesser risk exposure alternative of spinning off PC sports gaming operations into a seperate corporate entity that can focus on the niche are of PC sports gaming development what decision do you come to...a decision to withdraw the number one selling title from the market all together.  It might be crass but it`s absolutely true, effìng brilliant business decision.

I really do hope that somewhere deep in EA HQ this decision is being re-thought because this customer of yours used to buy every sports title that bore the logo of EA Sports every year since they came on the scene.  That won`t be happening anymore.  No, I am not and will not be buying a next gen console either.  

Programmer said:

I love Crytek,

they promote their greatest graphic engine in the world with PC then scaled down to release to console soon.. this is the true business minded should be.. As a developer Promoting your engine in PC is number one priority. because of we all know the capability in current GPU especially from nvidia. In order to become monopoly build for PC then port to console.. that is how things work.. it doesn't matter whether sports game other genre.. current industry it's all about quality of engine..

so I've heard you all gamers going to start boycott EA sports product huh.. dont boycott EA guys Crysis also EA.. Just EA Sports or whatever Moore work on.. hahaha, it's great move to show them gamers in control.. gamers feedback is important in order to improve gaming industry..

no wonder if EA sports sale for 08 drop this year..

so this year sports product to be choose only from 2Ks and KONAMI.....

Drew Rosenhous said:

like i didn't see this coming, fucking ea

Brad said:

Ah, the Football-Freaks community is rejoicing. We'll make our own version of 2009 and won't waste 40 bucks and then hours upon hours of fixing all the mistakes that would have come out in EA's version. You think you've cut off the PC world? Think again. We have the ability and the people to make this game as real as it gets. We'll take our 2008 version and make it 2009. Jersey updates? No problem. Roster updates? We've got that too. If it's in the game, we will mod it. Online play? We've had leagues going for years, and they'll keep on running.

I don't understand how EA can be show short-sighted. There's a loyal, large, and very talented fan base for Madden. You think this game is dead on the PC, Mr. Moore? You should surf the Internet a little bit and checkout some of the Madden fan sites and see the work your now former loyal customers are doing.

I've got one word for you: TexMod.

Dan said:

What clown in your research department, playing with his 360, sold you this line of bull crap? A business decision? It sounds as if EA needs to clean house and get some fresh blood in research and development. Have you guys any clue as to the advances in the PC market in just the last year?

Your arogance and the arogance of business in general is astounding. More like ignorance. Take a lesson from the recent debacle over at Creative and the myriad of negative postings for shoddy support and obvious greedy business models emphasising quick profit over building cutomer loyalty and reliable products at many other related web sites. I own a 360, a Wii and a PS, but EA won't be among the games purchased for them any longer. My sons have played Madden and many EA titles for years; no more!

What is this business decision? Did the RIAA and MPAA convince you their brand of paranoid delusion over piracy impacted on you as well? This ranks up there with some of the dumbest business decisions of all time. In today's market and economy, with shrinking disposable incomes and $4.00 a gallon gasoline, we, your customers make more careful decisions and vote with our wallets. I believe the vote is a resounding "NO" to EA.

My next posting/email will be to the NFL that allows you to use their name and logo, and then to Coach Madden himself (you know the guy that uses a PC to draw circles and arrows?).

Boo_Hoo_PC_Players said:

boo hoo the dope said:

April 5, 2008 8:02 PM

have you ever herd of a code meter un breakable. you talk of piracy you prolly one who didnt buy it stupid fool i can bet your online league is a joke too.

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herd??  like cows??   lol   and guys like you call others dopes  lol   typical of this community

keep the game for my league (sob)  my online league is the best! (sob)  

EA DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR LEAGUES!!  EA DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOU WEBMASTERS & THE LOSS OF YOUR INCOME MAKING WEBSITES FOR MADDEN!!  GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS!!

It's about money, money, money - AND THEY DO NOT MAKE ENOUGH ON THE PC Version with the different configurations & piracy to make it worth their while - Jeez

To make the game for 360 (one verson , works on all 360 consoles) -- same for Wii & PS3

Send whatever you want to the NFL (they already know & DO NOT CARE!) - Anti-Trust?  WHY? Because EA is going to make one less platform verson!   The game is still available just not on PC for 2009 - many games are ONLY available on console, no crying there , is is about your silly leagues & guys losing money as indviduals on their leagues and making of websites.  One more time: EA IS NOT HERE TO ACCOMODATE YOUR ONLINE LEAGUE, CONGRESS DON'T CARE IF THE GAME IS DROPPED FROM ONE PLATFORM, THE NFL DOESN'T CARE IF THE GAME IS ONLY AVAILABLE ON CONSOLE!! - WOW that a tragedy huh?  The same 200 crybabies  over & over here, STOP CRYING!!  What makes you think congress cares?  Do you not think EA has already weighed the cost/profit in not making the PC version?  Post here over & over again same 200 dedicated PC players,  this is not gonna change, go ahread & TEXMOD.  Man is this funny.

The PC League community calls others jokes - cusses people out (shows a VERY limited vocabulary - after reaing the posts here, odds are the kiddies with consoles use less profanity to express their thoughts) - and acts like the WORLD is ending here.  Find a new hobby- learn the difference between herd & HEARD!  Every time I revisit this thread I laugh harder & harder - it's great comedy relief

Hirsh said:

I am dissapointed that you will not make a PC game for Madden this year, and don't give me that BS about business challenges...we all know that you guys had good sales.  When the game first came out, it was sold out in many of the places I went to.  

Nevertheless, Can you at least continue to give roster updates to us Madden Online fans so we can still play it?

MadMalc said:

Poor, poor decision. I suspect it won't end at Madden either. Tiger Woods, NHL Hockey, FIFA, they are all at risk on PC, why? EA is only interested in "The ****ing" Sims....nothing else! Creative gaming....not EA Sports.. I have a PS3 and 360 and I much prefer 2K sports games and don't own any EA product and guess what? I'm not likely too now in the future.

 EA sports PC product has been poor for so long with inferior PS2 ports not making the most of latest PC technology. What I don't get is why EA would sign up Crytek and then publish a future spec product (that hardly anyone can play) called Crysis. I suggest EA wasted millions on this development just for PR hype as no way would they get the sales. This is a very poor decision and one that EA should review and develop a latest generation PC sports product and "lead the torch" for the PC platform rather than kill it! Shame on you EA perhaps people should stop playing and buying the Sims as well !

buckster said:

Ladies and Gentlemen-- RELAX.  EA obviously knows something that you and I don't.

SIerra made the mistake of "messing" with perfection as Fbpro98 was, and still is in marny circles, the ***. But what did they do?? Went out and released Fbpro99 a complete bust!  The product sucked and they ended up refuding a crap load of people.

My guess.... EA, just like you would in a game of BLACK JACK, is sticking with their 10 Hearts, 9 of Club.  Can't say I blame 'em...

PS... PC gamers (myself included) might wanna aclimate to the wave of the future... PS3.  If I'm a betting man, and I am, ALL in that Madden PS3 will tweak their COACH mode... and make it so sexxy, we PC dudes will be lined up around Time Square... with Online (Coach Mode) PS3 leagues popping up everywhere!

buck

Erich said:

I would like to know what the NFL thinks about this?  I dont think you folks will have the EXCLUSIVE rights anymore.  hehe

There are so many better developers for the PC community that have had their hands tied because they were excluded from the NFL license.  So, great, now we will finally have a superior game in the PC platform without stupid glitches and weak gameplay.

Erich said:

Peter, this is a "bold" move for being president (a new one at that) for ea sports.  You may want to consult your attorney for an investigation on your contract with the NFL.  Personally, you may want to consider getting your resume together too becuase the share holders are gonna lose allot of $$$ with this PR buzz.

If the president of EA Sports really had more brains than a brick he would have better programming on the pc version to render pirate versions useless.  Contrary to Aunt Tilly and Ucle stupids advise to YOU that the piracy market is robbing you blind, it is that very community that has been the backbone of your development for years and the MAJORITY of this market has NEVER had a problem with paying for your game.

Anyone reading this?  If you are and you have ANY EA stocks, sell them now while they are high.  ERTS

Anyone reading this?  Sell your ERTS shares before you lose all of your money in this.

PC Player said:

I guarantee EA is aware by their agreement of exclusive rights it means they can do the game on as many platforms (or lack of) as they want.  EA knows their agreement, they already have in place is about cash, they paid the NFL for exclusive rights to make the game on platforms where they can make money men.  The NFL already gets their money, each year when they unveil the "new game" they unveil it on console.  I am willing to bet they do not have a PC set up to show each years PC version of the game, consoles only as this is where the most R & D is dedicated.  If the NFL cared, wouldn't they insist they unveil it on PC also at that show?  If they were strong-arming or cared which platforms the game was available on wouldn't thay want EA to have a PC set up to show the game each year?  

As for the PR buzz, oh yeah from the PC players, they are worried about bad PR.  Again by the "We knew it wouldn't be a popular decision" doesn't EA state they know they will take heat?

The share holders care about profit, if one platform (that must be conceived for 100 different machines rather than just 3 or 4 IE: PS3, 360, Wii & PSP) isn't generating the profit between configurations issues & piracy, they have the right (as any public company that is in business to show a profit is) to drop a platform.  Thats all this is, dropping a configuration platform nighmare for easier, more profitable consoles.  It's about $$$, a company the size of EA knows where they make the most money with the least amount issues for configuration.   If they chose to make the game for Vista only, with 3 gig's of rams only, with xxx brand graphics board, everyone would still be screaming!  The "it's a sad day"  "drop dead EA" "EA you are idiots" posts do nothing guys, may help you vent but will not change EA's decision.  Madden for PC is gone for 2009 and no amount of threats, complaining, nasty posts is gonna bring it back.  When and/or if, EA decides that it could/will be profitable to reintroduce the game on PC they will.  Then and only then...

Erich said:

You will guarantee?  What a jackass comment.  Unless you have the documentation to prove it, mind your own business.  With that said, I am sure the NFL will like to make money on a PC endevour.

All of you BLOWHARDS that have a hard-on for the PC community are pretty funny.  Your just a bunch of paranoid jackasses that cannot conceive that there is money in all sorts of profit centers within the game.  BTW.  I recall in the "Paid for" game Snicker advertisment.  So before you run jackass all over the landscape and attempt to drill the PC market I guess you may want to consider NOTHING is free no matter how you cut it.  If someone wants to subject their computer to contaminated code in the guise of getting a "so called" free version, I guess it is their choice but either way, I am sure Snickers couldnt give a *** so long as people see their advertisment within the game.  For that matter, the music WITHIN the game gets sold too.  In addition to PAYING FOR THE PC version for the entire history of the game, even when it WAS NOT with an NFL license, I have paid for music too.  And I am sure I am not special and allot of others too.

In closing, the bad energy on this one, I pray, unloads on the present decision makers at EA.  I hope and pray a NFL PC game is available in the fall of 09 that IS NOT ea.  As for this "previous" Madden supporter, I am done and taking my money out of ERTS (their stock symbol) tomorrow and recommend EVERYONE else does as well if you have more brains than a brick.

Coach Moder said:

I really don't buy the piracy cop out at all.  EA could make their PC games available via EA link only.  This would cut manufacturing costs and force you to login with your EA Link account everytime you launched the game.  Piracy would then be a non-issue.  The REAL reason the PC line is being dropped is because of incompetence.  Face it, EA can't even develop a decent game on a next gen console with 1 set of specs.  Four years of development and the graphics are still only marginally better than a PS2, still jaggies, pixelation, poor drawing distance, etc.  In addtion, there are still features from the PS2 era that haven't been included on the next gen platform.  So in a nutshell, if EA can't develop a decent game with one set of specs to focus on, including 25gb of disc space, how could they ever manage to successfully port this pathetic crap to the PC.  That's the real reason folks.  They can shell out all the BS they want but it comes down to incompetence, plain and simple.  

I've been strictly a computer gamer since the commodore era but would consider buying a PS3 IF EA would make their games function and look equally as good as a PC.  They obviously don't have enough expertise to do it and I bet anything that they're games will still only support 720p yet again this year.  They never took full advantage of the orginial XBOX and certainly won't take advantage of the PS3's capabilites.  

Truthfully, the only way to make a monopoly like EA accountable for their product is to get a  federal law passed that says all console games can be returned within 24-48 hours after purchase if the customer is not satisfied.  This would really force monopoly developers like EA to put out quality products or get them shoved back up their a$$.  This is where all of us who have grown tired of EA's incompetence could make a difference, not here.  Politicians on both sides love to see their names in the paper so they would probably jump at the opportunity.  At $60 a pop, which is still more than a tank of gas for most people, I think consumer protection for console games is long over due.

PC Player said:

Lets handle this by each entry Erich (and I should know better than to roll around in the mud with a pig as they have a lot more experience in it than I ever could, but here goes):

Erich said:

April 6, 2008 1:22 PM

I would like to know what the NFL thinks about this?  I dont think you folks will have the EXCLUSIVE rights anymore.  hehe       (YOU DON'T THINK - But thats not a jackass comment - EA, a pubically owned company wouldnt have more legal advisement on staff than you apparently have years of school to advise them of their rights with the agreement)

There are so many better developers for the PC community that have had their hands tied because they were excluded from the NFL license.  So, great, now we will finally have a superior game in the PC platform without stupid glitches and weak gameplay.      (This is a EXCLUSIVE agreement - EA is not releasing it to any other programmers for 2009 - if & when it behooves them to do so fiscally, they will, until then there will be NO PC Madden for 2009 Erich).

Erich said:

April 6, 2008 1:48 PM

Peter, this is a "bold" move for being president (a new one at that) for ea sports.  You may want to consult your attorney for an investigation on your contract with the NFL.  Personally, you may want to consider getting your resume together too becuase the share holders are gonna lose allot of $$$ with this PR buzz.  (Your "OPINION" is that the CEO should update his resume because he is upsetting YOU Erich.  You make a statement like the shareholders are going to lose $$$, to the contrary, they will save $$$ by not having to configure a weak seller for so many different machines, anytime a CEO makes a decision to "save" money in a publically owned company he puts $$$ into the Boards pocket Erich).  

If the president of EA Sports really had more brains than a brick he would have better programming on the pc version to render pirate versions useless.  Contrary to Aunt Tilly and Ucle stupids advise to YOU that the piracy market is robbing you blind, it is that very community that has been the backbone of your development for years and the MAJORITY of this market has NEVER had a problem with paying for your game.      (Maybe the MAJORITY hasn't BUT the fact still remains compared to the consoles, it's a weak seller, is a configuration nightmare & does get stolen ALOT Erich.  But the thick people in charge should know what you know huh?).

Anyone reading this?  If you are and you have ANY EA stocks, sell them now while they are high.  ERTS   (Lose all your money LOL, right Erich)

Anyone reading this?  Sell your ERTS shares before you lose all of your money in this.  (RIGHT Erich, lose ALL your $$$)

Now the best for last:

Erich said:

April 6, 2008 3:01 PM

You will guarantee?  What a jackass comment.  Unless you have the documentation to prove it, mind your own business.  With that said, I am sure the NFL will like to make money on a PC endevour.     (My comments are jackassy? Are you serious?  Unless people agree with you, they should "mind their own business".  With all the money EA has, as I stated above with another one of your comments, their legal team knows what they can do legally Erich, yea I "guarantee" that)

All of you BLOWHARDS that have a hard-on for the PC community are pretty funny.  Your just a bunch of paranoid jackasses that cannot conceive that there is money in all sorts of profit centers within the game.  BTW.  I recall in the "Paid for" game Snicker advertisment.  So before you run jackass all over the landscape and attempt to drill the PC market I guess you may want to consider NOTHING is free no matter how you cut it.  If someone wants to subject their computer to contaminated code in the guise of getting a "so called" free version, I guess it is their choice but either way, I am sure Snickers couldnt give a *** so long as people see their advertisment within the game.  For that matter, the music WITHIN the game gets sold too.  In addition to PAYING FOR THE PC version for the entire history of the game, even when it WAS NOT with an NFL license, I have paid for music too.  And I am sure I am not special and allot of others too.     (Erich, you have paid $40 a year for the last 10-12 years?  thats 500.00 dollars?  You paid for the music, the ads, the game development..blah, blah, blah.  BOTTOM LINE, IF IT WAS PROFITABLE FOR EA, they would be producing the game for 2009 Erich).  

In closing, the bad energy on this one, I pray, unloads on the present decision makers at EA.  I hope and pray a NFL PC game is available in the fall of 09 that IS NOT ea.  As for this "previous" Madden supporter, I am done and taking my money out of ERTS (their stock symbol) tomorrow and recommend EVERYONE else does as well if you have more brains than a brick.     (And everyone at EA, is thick as a brick.  You know how the company works, you have seen the profit & loss statement as far as the PC game is concerned Erich.  I also "guarantee" you that EA knew how many PC players would be unhappy with this decision, they knew some would sell stock or try & boycott their games.  BOTTOM LINE ONCE AGAIN: If it benefitted EA fiscally, this thread wouldn't exist, they would be making the game for 2009, they AREN'T)

You knowing the letters EA goes by on the NASDAQ or NYSE makes you the threads resident authority of whether the CEO "should get his resume together".  I bet he's scared you made that statement huh?  Also that you are unloading the stock scares them too huh, damn that will make them rethink & see the error of their ways, they upset YOU!   lol

Please enlighten us all as to how it feels to be the only one who's thoughts & views matter, what it's like to be all knowing.  The NFL has already made the money when the sold they exclusive rights.  They are not going to separate the agreement Erich, it's an EXCLUSIVE agreement with EA.  Seriously, do you really think the NFL cares if they drop a platform?  The NFL loses money with the platform drop?  They made their money with the licencing agreement sir, and again I "guarantee" EA is well within it's legal rights to drop a platform.    

By calling them blowhards, jackasses & thick as a brick, I am sure everyone at EA, NFL properties & the NFLPA is like "wow who is this guy, find him & hire him.  He understands our business & companies better than we do, we NEED him!"  lol

Hey Erich, as the old saying goes "hope & pray in one hand & **** in the other hand, see which one gets filled up first"

Poor EA. Erich is dropping their stock, the "paranoid jackasses" are doomed.  

Unbelieveable...

bigroy 659 madden gamer said:

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY ARE YOU STOPING THE PC VERISON OF MADDEN ..PLEASE IF YOU HAVE A HEART YOU WILL UNDERSTAND I HAVE A COMPUTER  AND I LIKE TO PLAY MADDEN ALOT IF YOU TAKE THAT FROM ME . IN THE REST OF THE GAMERS . YOU WILL FALL GRANTEE  YOU WILL FALL  . AND IF SO  LET SOME MAKE IT FOR PC . LIKE 2K SPORTS

PC Hardcore Sports Fanatic said:

Well as with the majority of the posts here I too am very disgruntled about this news.  However  EA has not supported the PC community for years.  Look at the new gen graphics on the console titles.  Most of us have PC's or Mac's that have twice the power than an XBOX 360 or PS3 yet we have been left with outdated un-original graphics since roughly 2002 or 2003.  I am not surprised with this action.  Look what happened to the Baseball franchises.  First triple play and then when MVP came out we had a good game then nothing when it changed over to ncaa baseball.  To not bring out games for the PC I feel is a big mistake but what can you do when a company has been trying to get us to stop buying their games for years.  We get zero respect from EA and it's sister companies.  I think that medal of honor and other titles will go by the wayside soon also.  Why create games on a  platform that has to be completely coded different if you can just code one and port it over to the other consoles.  So here is where my long relationship with EA ends.  It is a tale since the early 90's with the snes.  Then when they started to open up the pc gaming market to great games that is when I switched.  I know it may not be much but my hard earned dollars will never go to EA.  No, not for a new battlefield(if a new one ever comes out).  Not for a new MOH.  EA may as well not even produce games on the pc anymore.

  Well enough of the boo hooing.  I haven't bought a new EA title since I can remember.  Who really cares.  Again EA has not taken care of us in a long time.  That fact alone forced most of us to not buy brand new titles but wait till they hit the bargain bin.  In my opinion that is why they will stop giving us new titles.  EA was once the maker of the greatest football game ever.  Now they just show us yesterday's graphics with new features and new names on the back of the jersey. Nobody at EA or the NFL will really care.  Nobody at the NFLPA will care either.  The only ones who care are those of us who are being forced by EA and other software game companies to buy and expensive game that will be obsolete in three or less years.  We then have to shell out another $400-$800 just to keep up.  Cost effectiveness is not their goal for us.  Their goal for us is to gain as many licenses as possible and beat out the other guy by selling more titles and making more money.  So if they aren't selling enough titles on the pc then wal`la no more titles for us PC users.  Sad day but oh well

choss meedam said:

you're a gooz

PC Hardcore Sports Fanatic said:

I'm a gooz or just a realist who can see that EA doesn't want our buisiness.

Boogerboy said:

I can make your job very easy.  Just take next-gen graphics and apply it to madded 05.  I was ranked #1 in the world online.  Now I don't even play the franchise.  It is too realistic.  Too much cpu.  I dont even feel like I'm playing.  People think they want realism but they really don't.  The spin, juke and juke glitch were so much fun on 05.  Now, I don't even know why you have these in the game(they don't work).  Oh well, it's your game.  This will be the first year I'm not preordering the game.  I'll rent it first, if it is any good then i'll buy it.  But I'm sorry to say I haven't expected much from EA in about the last 4 years.

Mike Vacco said:

You know what is sad?

EA or Electronic Arts (as they were known back in the day) was built on the backs of PC gamers.....

Thanks guys.

Very, very sad.

The Insider said:

Don't believe the hype guys. Madden NFL 2009 PC will be developed as scheduled. Peter is against it, but we (EA) will overrule him. Presidency is not what it used to be. He has to convince us that dropping Madden '09 PC is a lucrative business move. With that being said, the answer will undoubtedly be in favor of keeping the PC counterpart.

A few of you guys have already stated that this situation is about money. I couldn't have said it better myself. From a development/production standpoint, Madden PC generates enough money to take care of itself. Currently, we are in the process of developing Madden PC on an entirely new engine. All of the hard work that we have put into this project will not be done away with. I can assure you of that.

While this is an attempt to deter piracy of the game, all it truly does is create chaos throughout the PC gaming community. Keeping some of our most loyal fans in suspense by flat out lying to them is not the proper way to handle theft.

You guys must know that we are very aware of the piracy issue. Not only are we aware of it, we have also factored in the type of impact piracy has on a global scale. It shouldn't be a shocker to know that Madden is copied and distributed across multiple platforms. The PC is not alone in this respect as the PS2, XBOX, GameCube, Wii, XBOX 360, PSP, Game Boy Advance, and Nintendo DS all have copies of Madden readily available for download from various websites. It truly doesn't matter which platform has the largest amount of pirated games. Each illegally shared game hurts the development of Madden. Piracy will not end over night, but we will continue to do the best that we can to prevent it.

I can only imagine how ashamed Trip is of this man.

Duh said:

This is too funny. EA is killing the PC version of Madden? They basically did that after the 2005 version. The inaccuracies and lack of enhancement showed how much EA cared about the PC version. Between all the glitches, uniform screw ups, and roster updates we knew how much they cherished the platform. At least they're efforting something for the consoles. One of these days they'll enter the same ballpark as NFL 2K5. Outside of the announcers, that game took Madden behind the woodshed and beat it senseless with a big old oak branch. With one less platform to worry about, maybe the developers will get Madden on par with say, NFL Blitz? Good luck Peter. You guys pulled the lever to flush the toilet years ago.

Bert Shaft said:

If this is how Peter wotsisname and EA feel about the fanbase that made them "what they are today", I will  no longer support any PC product that has its hands grubbied by Electronic Arts.

I urge PC gamers to boycott this disgraceful shabby company.

rocketman said:

just port over next gen for pc i can wait a couple months before i get it,just make it that we conect to ea server and supply our valid cd key before the game installs then you get ride of piracy dont abandon us because of them illegal downloading fools.

PC Hardcore Sports Fanatic said:

If what the Insider said is true, then I am in.  Esp. if it has a new engine.  I am up for better graphics and the such.

ALEX said:

if  we could get  a group of people  to start a boycott of all ea products. email me at boycotteanow@googlemail.com if you wish to help start a group. Crysis too.

Jon B said:

Loyal customer here...more than half of ALL of the video games I have bought were EA Sports titles, for the PC.  Haven't been a console gamer since the original Playstation (and most of the games I had for that were EA, too).  I am not going to buy a gaming console, simply to play a less-customizable game.  I'll update the rosters on my old game, or download an updated roster.  I am not angry, merely a little disappointed, but because your company no longer produces games for my platform of choice, it is likely this loyal customer has made his last purchase from you.

BigDaddyCool said:

I've started a petition to get EASports to reconsider their decision to not put out Madden for the PC. This is to get them to realize that there is a market for the PC out there. I'd rather not have them say that there's no market for Madden like they've been saying about NCAAFB for years now.

Please visit the petition and sign it. It will be forwarded to Peter Moore on August 15th, 2008

www.ipetitions.com/.../Madden_for_PC

macdose 033 said:

I own 2 other consoles.  Madden PC provided a NFL experience like no other.  I am very disappointed in your decision and I plan on emailing Jerry Jones, i mean , the NFL and request the removal or the non-extension of the exclusive right to produce.

Coach Moder said:

I'm convinced that EA actually likes piracy.  Why you ask?  Because it's piracy that prevents even the console games from being returned.  Imagine if games couldn't be pirated and the consumers could actually return $60 games that aren't up to their expectations.  That would put the pressure on big companies like EA to develop good games or have them returned and therefore lose a ton of money.

Under the current system, consumers can't return games they buy even when they're lousy.  So piracy essentially creates this protection for imcomptent game developers who will also do statistical analysis on how many games were pirated and write them off.  All sales are final and they can even claim losses from piraters who wouldn't even have purchased their games if they weren't free.  Sounds like a great deal for EA but we, the honest consumer, loses.

I can see how piracy could hurt a smaller company, but tell me, do you really think EA wants piracy to go away and give up their no return policy?  I don't think so.  Also tell me this...do you really think EA can't prevent their games from being pirated?  Lets not be naive.  It's long overdue to put the onus of responsbility on big game developers like EA and give consumers back their rights that they deserve.  

PC Hardcore Sports Fanatic said:

I really think though the last thing we need is a boycott.  If we say no we won't buy it then that just proves their point.  After the first shock and my first post I thought it over.  We need to show them that we do still buy sports pc games.  I don't think negatives will show them our passion for the games.  Only in the positive may they discover the true fans of the sports genre.

DaveQB said:

Terrible, really TERRIBLE!

I have bought a copy of Madden every year starting with Madden '92.

But like others, I won't be buying Madden, or any other EA game for that matter, ever again.

Rot EA rot!

Jospeh said:

"The Insider" - the last thing the Madden PC community needs is someone talking BS. Peter Moore is the *head* of EASports, I think when he says they cancelled Madden PC, they cancelled Madden PC. EA don't over rule acting presidents, they let them do their thing and fire them if need be later on. Also, your IP address with that post is traceable by EA - pretty silly to suggest people would believe an internal employee would come onto a comments section for their boss and undermine his authority.

Why do you think Madden 09 PC was cancelled when Madden 09 PS2 exists to port from? Why this year? There was no *real* pressure to go to the next gen engine, 09 PC could have been another PS2 port.

I'll tell you why this year - because it was the first year they were allowed to. It comes down to the NFL agreement. My guess is the first agreement considered the PC to be a "major platform". In most exclusivity deals, there are requirements stating all major platforms need to be covered. EA were required to make a PC game, basically. Until recently, when they extended the agreement. EA probably argued to the NFL the PC should be dropped as a "major platform" due to its prior Madden sales in comparison to the console. So, with the extension it was dropped as a requirement, and EA could finally drop the PC game altogether. I'm sure they probably wanted to do it years ago but simply couldn't due to the agreement. This would explain the lackluster effort put into the PC version in recent years.

So, if anything, we all need to blame the NFL. They had the power to force a PC version, but then they didn't have the power to force EA to actually *try* making a great game on the PC (obviously).

Wade said:

Interesting theories Joseph, you very well may be right.  The only thing is though;  if EA wanted to kill the PC series 3 years ago, why wait until now to kill off the entire PC line?  They could've eliminated NBA, NHL, FIFA, etc. after 06 and kept Madden afloat until now, then dumped it.  That's the only thing that seems off.  

My theory is that so many PC communities from each series have been screaming for next gen ports and EA simply can't figure it out.  They have enough problems developing on their current "1 set of specs" consoles let alone the PC.  You're absolutely right about the NFL sharing the blame here.  You would think as much as Roger Goodell's concerned about the image of the NFL, he would want his product to be well represented in this gaming generation.  But like the NCAA and Nascar, the only thing he could see was green bills.

I guess we'll find out next year.  If there’s a strong 2010 PC lineup, then maybe they needed more time to figure things out.  If there’s no lineup, then your theory will make the most sense to me and they got sick of a minority gaming platform outperforming their precious consoles.  I just wish we could get some straight answers from the EA camp.  They’re so much like the government, so secretive and hush hush about everything.  Geez EA, you’re not the Defense Department, you’re a video game developer.  Things happen, we’ll understand, just be honest…once and awhile anyway.

Bert Shaft said:

Tell the NFL about EA's disgraceful decision to dump "the people that made them" .

Write to them and urge them to insist that  next gen PC versions of their sport will be available to  the PC loving public as well as the console users. The NFL licence must not be allowed to be abused like this.

http://www.nfl.com/contact-us

DONT LET EA WIN!

Joseph said:

Bert Shaft - that is the contact form for NFL.com, not the NFL. Read the top left part.

"NOTE: This form is solely for e-mail pertaining to the NFL.com web site. We are unable to respond to email relating to the NFL itself."

It would be handy to have an email for the actual NFL though, I'm sure they have a PR department.

Rich said:

This is supposedly the number to the NFL PR: 1-212-450-2000. Enjoy.

Erich said:

I bet the president does not equal "ownership" and someone there signs checks to "the president".  What I find humorous are these "chicken little" blow-hards that are trying to make everyone paranoid here.  There will be a NFL PC game this year.  Whether or not EA has anything to do with it is irrelivant.  It is quite possible, from some of the research I have done, that the exclusive rights to the NFL may be over with EA(can anyone say "spin").  The next few months are going to be very interesting indeed.  Honestly, it is pretty exciting!

With all of that said, if the president of EA-sports (not EA as a whole) is going to spin the NON- release of a PC platform in a mannor that disrespects those in the PC community that have supported this lineup from the very begining(madden for PC was first before ANY console platform), it would make sense that there are some irrational decisions being made at the top that could jeapordize shareholders interests in this company.  So, my advise to sell is still there whether or not "Mr PC Player (whom responded to my posts above)" wants to pooh pooh my advise.  You Mr/Mrs "PC Player" can run half-cocked and jackass however you wish and I surely wouldnt give a rats ass.

Joseph said:

Erich, Moore is an employee of EA, yes. But here's there to make decisions, and this is one of them. He's the head of EASports, he oversees its operations. Madden PC, and very likely most of EASports PC, is now no longer part of the operation. It's his decision to make. If it backfires, and he's probably fired, but it won't backfire because it isn't big enough of a risk. The majority of PC gamers will merge to the consoles sooner or later and EA will get what they want - complete and utter control with no user made creations showing them up.

I'm not sure you get the reality here. No one here is making anyone paranoid, the facts are straight from the horses mouth. There is no speculation or presumption - Peter freaking Moore said there is no Madden 09 PC. Get a grip - it's final.

I'm not sure where the hell you have been "researching", but EA just signed an extension to the exclusive rights agreement until 2013 with the NFL. It isn't over any time soon. And them leaving the PC platform does NOT open PC up for a new license holder. EA STILL retain PC rights for the NFL. Go look into 2KSports and their 3rd party rights deal with MLB. They don't make a baseball PC game, but no one else can either because there is no "1st party" on the PC (like Sony for the PS3, or MS for the 360). This is perfectly legal unfortunately and has happened because the National Football League (very likely) agreed with EA that the PC isn't a "major platform", so therefore it isn't a required platform to release to.

So you're wrong - EA is very relevant to the reality of NFL on the PC. Even if the license was open (which it isn't) for PC, do you see any company whilling to step forward? I don't. 2KSports don't like PC. Ubi and Activision don't have sports divisions of note. And the NFL season starts in August - no time to make a new NFL game. There are a lot of really good PC game developers, but none I can see would take on an NFL project anyway. The fee for licensing the game even if it was open (again, which it isn't) would probaly put production costs well above expected revenues.

Sorry I don't share the same excitement, but there is nothing to be excited for this year. Maybe they come back for 2010. NFL for PC is dead until further notice from EA, there is no escaping that reality.

Ray said:

Like most here,,been playing this series since the Sega days when it was not the huge money maker it is today. The PC users have been overly loyal to EA in buying the PC version over the years even though they got progressivly worse. Im not going to bother discussing how the NHL series went from great to horrid in the span of 2 years.

I have pumped tons of money into the PC series and feel totally let down. Ive tried the Console versions and the gameplay is just awful. Even with lots of tweaking it was like playing a cheap arcade game, with inflated scores. Zero sense of realism.

Most of us PC players are older and have supported EA for years and I hope eveyone turns their back.

None of us buy the "financial issue" and you know that most of us will not to to the console version.

GReat. ive pumped tons of cash into EA's coffers and my reward is  I have to go out and buy a $500 system in order to play the new version. WOw..Thanks EA.

Hopefully the PC community can MOd 08 well enough to enjoy playing football.

James said:

I am very saddened by this move.  I've been playing Madden and NBA Live on my PC for as long as I can remember.  I will not buy anymore EA products because of this move and will tell others to do the same.  "Some circles" being angry are gamers, we are not less of a gamer because of us not being console gamers.

Sign: Another lost customer

Ray said:

Would be nice to see Mr. Moore post another blog on this subject. Basic business knows that having a monopoly is terrible for the consumer. We all know that EA has watered down Madden the last few years. The NHL series is unplayable, same as NBA.  Guaranteed 09 will be terrible for the Console, because as hard as I tried before, could never get any realism, and anything beyond a 1 game exhibition is lousy...Franchsie Mode is nothing like it is on the PC and that is what draws the "regulars" to the series.

John McGruddy said:

Well good to see you are not making the PC version anymore. That pretty much put the nail in the coffin for myself as a consumer to ever buy a EA product again.

Us PC gamers held tight year after year of failed promises, constant removal of items compared to console, lack of quality q&a when it comes to bug reporting and fixing. Now you go ahead and drop this bomb?

At least give up the NFL license for another company to create a NFL PC game. A company that would care about the consumer rather then the financial side of things. Sorry but Madden title has gone downhill the past 4 years. The constant same bugs showing up every year proved it.

Way to milk us loyal PC users out of 40-50 dollars every year.

Ray said:

I agree with coach earlier..If EA truly believe that dropping the PC version is good, and having a monopoly is good they should stand by their product and offer a 48 hour return policy. The big reason most of us do not want to console veriosn is becuase it lacks what the PC has given us, which is why we try and mod things. If EA can stand by their product I'd have no problems, but they cant.

Erich said:

Smoke and Mirros folks, there will be a PC NFL game.  The ONLY reason EA would consider dropping the PC version is because of competition, period.  There must be some agreement that the NFL entered with EA on the exclusive front that DOES NOT guarantee EA exclusitivity, thus, that is why they are not going to develop it.  There is NO other reason for it.  You must open your mind and read between the lines people.  Do you think EA will advertise to their competiton any weakness of their agreement?  

Secondly, how much is Microsoft and Sony behind this?  Seems to me both consoles are not setting the world on fire and those consumers are discouraged about having to buy xbox live subscriptions, on top of normal internet services.  Now Sony, on the other hand, is simply priced out of the market.

Spin it any way you want it EA!  The truth will be KNOWN in the end and if you do have an exclusive right to the PC platform and violate your requirement to produce a product, you may jeopordize your rights to the EXCLUSIVE console agreements.  I am sure, I'd hope, your attornies have been informed about your decision to VIOLATE terms in your exclusive agreement with the NFL.

Here is how assinine some of you BLOW-HARDS sound.  You think it does the NFL any favors by NOT having a PC game for players considering there are Millions (with an M) of potential purchasers of software and/or exposure to the NFL franchises marketing, players, teams and ownership profit centers.  How stupid would the NFL be for allowing EA to have EXCLUSIVE rights to a game platform (the PC) they have no intension of producing?  Geeze, I dont know who would be stupider, the NFL for allowing such attrocities or EA for being hooked by a couple of MAJORS (Sony and Microsoft) to manipulate a potential downfall to EVERYONE!  And yes, EVERYONE means consumers too.  So in the END everyone, WITH THE EXCEPTION of Microsoft and Sony, lose.  Nvidia (or like), Intel (or like), memory manufactures, hardware manufactures, all game controler manufactures, software distributors, hardware distributors, computer enthusiasts (that want a better gaming system than "lame" consoles), and gamers that have supported and patiently waded through more than two decades of slight improvement (not to mention in game advertisement "snikers?".

I am old enough to remember 1994 when EA lost the ability to have ANY NFL teams on their game.  I actually bought it too, like a dumbass, their worst game ever.  If they do this I would be willing to bet it opens the doors up for this again.  I hope so!

voltageme5 said:

EA dropping Madden is no different then when they dropped NCAA Football from the PC back in 1999. We were all disappointed that they did and hoped they would change their minds but that has never happened and never will because EA has decided to focus on the console market. Which for them is apparently good business.

As much as we don't want to acknowledge it or some just don't know, the PC market is incredibly small and if EA doesn't reach certain profit percentages with a title such as Madden then it will get *** canned.

Everybody on here has some kind of conspiracy theory or an idea that the NFL gives two shits about EA and their PC gamers but the reality is the NFL doesn't care. It's EA's agreement and I'm sure they could sell only a PS3 version if they wanted to and the NFL wouldn't care. They'll get their money in the end.

I'm just as disappointed as everybody else on here and I would love it if EA got a good hard hit in the pocketbook when Madden is released but it won't happen. I think it's a great idea that we have all these petitions because it gives us all a chance to voice our opinions on the matter but EA has already made the business decision to cut the title. It is a business move that comes down to a bottom line.

Irregardless of any of this loyalty stuff that people think that EA should feel towards it's customers, the fact is that its a business and its about sales and profits and nothing else. If you want loyalty from a company you don't go looking at the big dogs because thats how they got big, by screwing the little guys.

Microsoft anyone?

Erich said:

Sure the NFL cares when you consider their license gets paid on SOLD items too.  I honestly dont think anyone has challenged it.  From my experience in entertainment contracts and music licensing (and it is all the same just a different product) they have liabilities under the license.  I am sure they are not disclosed to us but I am sure if enough hell was raised and it was brought out of the woodwork there would be a lawyer on the NFL's payroll that may see it in good business sense to EXCLUDE PC software from their license due to the fact they are not going to support it any longer which would open the doors for the NFL to make MORE money from another company.  My point being, there has to be a agreement of some sort and with that agreement there would be limitations and requirements as standard in ALL licensing agreements.  Yes, there may be an exception but I do not see the president chiiming in on his very own blog to address ANY of these addtions to his blog.  Pretty lame!  Then again, with the half-cocked and jackass decision to piss a very loyal segment with valid reasons to stay PC, what should be expected of him.

Chase said:

Well, I am officially no longer an EA customer. Had been debating it for years because Madden has become so crappy but now its official. I wouldnt even be angry if you hadnt given such a b.s. excuse for canceling the PC version.Just tell the truth, your to lazy to try to improve the PC game so you just dont want to make it anymore. Now, that wasnt so bad was it?

Adrian said:

Boy you have a nerve!!!! I have been loyal to Madden since the first time I laid my eyes on one copy, but you just keep giving us a bad product year in and year out. You take stuff from previous iterations of the game just to install them in the next and still have the nerve to call it "NEW"!!!!!???? You screwed the franchise mode in Madden 08 and took A LOT of stuff off. You should realize that Franchise in MADDEN (not the awful Coach) was one of the main reasons I loved the game.

This so-called License is just not working, it seems to me that you have to feel the heat of other companies to work harder to please the MAIN REASON YOU EXIST, US; YOUR CUSTOMERS.

And whatever happened to the TRUE NEXT GEN iteration of MADDEN????? I remember seeing the ads of (no less) Donovan and T.O. playing against the Giants, yet so far NO TRUE NEXT-GEN Madden, LIES, LIES, LIES.

I am getting really tired of all this nonsense from the ONE COMPANY that used to DELIVER the GREATEST SIMULATION of PRO football.

Good luck with your "bundle" pack come August, $90.00 DOLLARS!!!!! what a joke. The worst thing is that I would buy this bundle thing if I knew the product was worthy, but I guess it won't by the way you handle us.

Oh, one more thing good luck with the RECESSION looming over this great country.

Looking (really) forward until your license expires and competition brings things back to normalcy.

dimeboy99 said:

Ugh. I've really enjoyed Madden on the PC.

Hey Struttdaddy, are you still making custom rosters?

Milesd said:

See people, it's bastards like these who were once running microsoft. If the ulterior motive wasn't obvious already ,they're actually trying to kill PC gaming. Not help it. Because...

it's their scapegoat: when they make crappy games that don't run well on anyone's computer or have inferior gameplay and features when compared to the console since MS or Sony asked with a nice load of cash for exclusive versions, just blame it all on something like piracy, become irrationally blind to all potential sales, ignore everything you did wrong. It's all the fault of the gamers!

EA is more than guilty of giving the PC "half versions" of games in the past (007 Nightfire, Need for Speed, so on, so on). When the sales don't come in, they roll their eyes and try to look at anyone but themselves. They ignore the fact that they are giving the platform a bad reputation with their actions, so they blame piracy... So have the rest of developers for PC, sadly.

Tom said:

Any way to get an RSS feed of your blog?

BB said:

Well the Madden folks aren't the ones with a beef. I read some where EA is killing off NBA Live for the PC as well. I'd expect the same thing to happen to the NHL series. My guess is they'll only keep the FIFA series.

Erich said:

My prediction is EA and their EXCLUSIVE license is at its end this year and they are not going to advertise it.  Secondly, there very well may be another software developer with a licensed NFL game coming that we are unaware of.  I guess the next month will really be interesting.  Nevertheless, if the EXCLUSIVE license is in effect the NFL better enforce it!  Write the NFL people!  football-freaks.com will jump on getting developers in motion!

ChrisRW said:

Peter Moore, why in the world would you take away Madden 09 from us.  I hope you run EA sports into the ground and loss your job, you pile of crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joseph said:

Erich, dude, the exclusive deal is NOT going anywhere. EA JUST EXTENDED IT UNTIL 2013! Did you miss this news or what? And it *is* exclusive, PC included. Did you not read my last post about the MLB license? 2K own it and don't produce a PC game either, and no one else can. There is no NFL PC game coming this year.

Face it, EASports have dumped PC - it isn't that hard to accept surely, given the quality in recent years. They clearly haven't been interested for years. It's also clear the mainstream sports don't consider PC a worthy platform - MLB are fine with no PC game, and the NFL are now too fine with it. There is no way EA broke their agreement - I'm guessing you'll probably find that the recent extension until 2013 removed the clause stating the PC is a "major platform" and is required to see a release. This sucks when the PC still has MILLIONS of gamers, not to mention more money is spent yearly by consumers on PC gaming than consoles, but unfortunately the demographic for sports games is shifitng to consoles now days. The vast majority of avid PC gamers spent their teen years avoiding sport, they have no interest spending their gaming hours on it.

Erich said:

Joesphy, dude, have you read any of my posts?  I dont think ANYONE has truly held their feet to the fire on it.  They are, and according to you, have, done this and I am sure any NFL attorney CAN enforce a release of the PC (portion) agreement since it is NOT going to make them any further money, thus, working agaist their agreement (I personally dont think they have an exclusive on the PC thus they spun it this way).  I think you people are simply limp wristed and willing to take it up the pipe.  Meanwhile, Sony, Microsoft and EA monopolize a segment of competition and FREE MARKET that arguably should be open for development.  The NFL is NOT that stupid or lack the hunger for more money.  Judging this blog, there is a clear market and profit center for the PC development, period.

In closing, if they JUST extended to 2013 and the PC is included, point me to a link where I can see the real deal.  Otherwise, this is a sham/smoke screen or whatever to influence the market towards consoles because they DO NOT have an exclusive agreement with the NFL on PC games.  Get it?  Show me!  I bet you or dufuss cannot.  And Joe, I am not calling you dufuss.  I am calling the putz  that is trying to manipulate this PC generation to a lame-ass console version of Madden, under the guize that there will be NOTHING else available that is under an NFL license.  Sorry bro, I dont buy it and you will see I am right.

Joseph said:

First of all, so what if the NFL can free up the PC platform - WHO is going to make a PC NFL game? There is *no* way, with the cost of an NFL license, that anyone could make a profit from a PC NFL game while also funding development costs. It's simple game economics - if the audience was there EA would, at the very least, continue to port the PS2 game. 2KSports would also be on the PC if there was a real market for sports games on the PC, but they're not. And this just comes back down to my first point - WHO is going to make this fairy tale NFL PC game? hmm? The only two sports game makers are now both anti-PC.

NFL PC can be profitable, but you'll need to use EA's model - build for the console, port to the PC. There simply isn't a big enough market on the PC to warrant a built-from-the-ground-up PC game. And even if there was, there is no time left this year for a 08 release anyway - games like that take a long time to make.

Here's your link:

gamepolitics.com/.../ea-nfl-extend-maddenopoly

It's not the actual deal obviously - that isn't available. The original agreement signed a few years ago DID include PC - it covered ALL, I repeat, A-L-L gaming platforms, even phones. If you can play a video game on it, EA owned the NFL license for it - period. An "extension" to this agreement therefore takes the original principals and adds more years to it, so therefore, the PC still remains. It is NOT illegal to own the rights for a platform and choose not to release on it. The NFL may feel like idiots (personally I don't think they give a damn, because EA are paying them the same for the license with or without PC), but there's nothing legal they can do unless the deal specifically states PC MUST be covered, and I highly doubt it does. EA may not be the brightest game company but they're not that dumb.

Anyway, if you want to sit back and say it doesn't include the PC anymore, how about YOU prove it, after all, until PROVEN otherwise, the NFL deal covers the PC still because it did before. Bet you can't.

Serfiu said:

Do you think this guy gives a ***? I doubt it.

thewood_14 said:

this is a bad bad decision by you guys  .. some people dont have the money to fork out to go get a ps3 or x box  along with 09 madden....pc gamers spend countless hours  playing the game... I have purchased madden for the pc every year since 03... on the day it hit the stands.....  sounds like you are shooting urself in the foot

Erich said:

Joseph,

Please, show me the contract and not some lame link of a bunch of rants like this one.  You said they had the PC EXCLUSITIVITY and now your talking out the side of your @$$.  You show me fool!  Dont know about you, but I am not drinking their Koolaide.

You make it sound like if someone were to create a board game EA would have the exclusive rights to that too.  Well, you are sadly mistaken and a fool to think that way.  You cannot pay for an exclusive agreement without agreeing to distribution and without distribution there is NO agreement.  Get that straight Joeseph!  You are bound by a distribution contract to facilitate and place goods in the market so the NFL, on top of whatever fees you paid for the license, can recoup royalties off of sold wares.  I am sure the players association may be interested in EA running half cocked and jackass by cutting distribution by NLT 20% by canning a platform.  Get it?  I am sure you do not.  Please, do not reply to this again JOESPH with a like to the EXACT contract.

Erich said:

oh, and EA has proven to be stupid in years past.  Revisit 1994's loss of the NFL license!  This is very interesting Joesph and by reading your post I am grossly unimpressed with your logic.  Spending the past 20 years in distribution I KNOW there is a fly in the ointment and you mealy mouth/limp wristed ingrates will take it up the pipe rather than make noise to free other manufactures to distribute a better product under the presumption that the madden platform is the best.  We are tired of being abused Joesph!  I bet you they have violated terms of their EXCLUSITIVITY!!!  SHOW ME THE REAL CONTRACT or raise hell on the same team and hold them accountable.

Revan said:

wow... maybe EA should try playing their PC sports games...

maybe then theyll find out they all SUCK compared to their console versions..

why do u think madden 08 cost only 40 bucks?

play the game, youll find out...

console gets a crap load of features... PC gets a new menu (which still looks like sh*t in that sorry a$$ 1000x700 resolution EA) and a "ring of the champion" that could as well be an excel spreadsheet.. would make no difference.

and guess what.. its been like this since madden 05.

oh wait.. this year we got widescreen support.... woohoo... now my stupid looking players wont look as fat.

whereas in the console, you can practicly see the sweat on the players face...

oh and btw.. player WEAPONS?

WTF is a player weapon?

oh right... that icon thing that does NOTHING AT ALL...

seriously EA...

you EXPECT PC GAMERS TO BUY THAT KIND OF CRAP?!!!

we are NOT that stupid.

oh and BTW... i DONT have a console port

sports games are just as good on PC (i have 12 usb ports, i can play with 12 gamepads just like playstation if i wanted to)

we do have BETTER graphics (i can probably run 2 360 madden 08's on my pc without slowdown)

and

pirated games are just as easy to find on consoles... wake up (see below)

the only thing consoles *may* have better than a pc in tech terms is sound.. but i rarely care about sound, my ears are not that sensitive.

a little extra:

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...fools

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EA Employee says... said:

If the peeps here had a clue it would be scary

NO GAME WILL BE PRODUCED FOR PC FOR MADDEN in 2009

THE NFL DOESN'T CARE if the PC PLATFORM is DROPPED

No matter what the smartest man on earth says...

EA had made the choice (and it is their choice - no matter how much whining goes on here) to drop the MOST UNPROFITABLE PLATFORM from their Madden line,  THE GAME IS GONE FOR PC FOR 2009.

End of Story - But I guarantee a certain someone with their unfallable logic & unmatched reasonining & IQ continues to tell us all how EA WILL make the game for PC.

; )

Erich's evil twin Erinh said:

Duh, Hey Joesph & guys,

Cut out disagreeing with me!  I know all, I know the NFL cares, I know everyone is wrong but me, no one better post unless they share my views.  Duh

I know the license will be ripped awasy (duh) & given to a company that wants to cater to me & the 4 other PC players that care. Duh

How dare anyone challenge my ideas (duh) or say they know the game will not be produced (duh), I know it will be Aunite Em, it just has to be!   We'll just follow the yellow brick road (duh) & see the Wizard (who must me ME) (Duh) & EA HAS to make the game for PC or the NFL will drop a house on them (duh)...olol

Isn't this Kansas?  Where's the Lion & the Tin Man & the Scarecrow?   I just know EA will change their minds, as long as I am wearing these Ruby Slippers!  I will just click my heels 3 time & repeat "ea will make the game, on PC ea will make the game on PC, ea will make the game on PC"  C'mon guys, get on my bandwagon & make them accountable!  I'll give you my others slippers & we can all click our heels!!!  

Joseph said:

Erich, first of all I'm a Madden PC gamer too. I'm not pro EA, I'm just being realistic. I'm not sure why you are so hostile.

Second of all, I think it's YOU who has to prove your argument, not me. Are you suggesting EA never had exclusive rights on the PC? Because unless you are suggesting that, YOU need to prove they no longer have it. I don't need to prove they do - they do by default because they did before. So you're the one talking our the side of your ass. Prove they voilated it, then you're making sense. Otherwise you're just bullsh*ting.

"bet you they have violated terms of their EXCLUSITIVITY"

Maybe, maybe not. Prove it. Until you do, I and every other logical sane person will assume they haven't.

"You cannot pay for an exclusive agreement without agreeing to distribution and without distribution there is NO agreement.  Get that straight Joeseph!  You are bound by a distribution contract to facilitate and place goods in the market "

Not quite right. I happen to know for a fact videogame exclusivity agreements do indeed include this distribution clause, HOWEVER, this clause is combined with a condition, and this condition introduces the following language to the agreement - 'all major platforms'. So the wording might be "EA agree to distribute their NFL game to all major platforms yearly". But what is a "major platform"? This is also defined in the agreement, and if the PC is not included, then EA are not bound to distribute for it. My theory is the PC probably was a major platform, but the recent extension of the agreement removed it from the major platform definition due to poor sales, which opened the door to EA cancelling the PC version/

Do I know for a fact this is what the agreement says? No. But you don't know for a fact it doesn't, either, and it definitely is a common condition to see in agreements like these. And I think it's safe to assume EA would never drop PC unless they could without being sued by the NFL. This isn't some snap decision they made one morning while taking the lift to the top floor, this was a carefully considered decision. If you're suggesting EA made it without consulting their law department, you obviously don't know how big business works.

Anyway, we don't know the exact language of the agreement. Maybe EA are required to release on all platforms, but not yearly? Maybe it says all platforms need an updated NFL game in the span of at least 24 months? After all, all we know is there won't be a Madden 09 PC, 2010 PC could exist. Who knows - all I know is, until proven otherwise, there are many ways EA could have dropped PC without any legal consequences.

Oh and there is no link to the agreement online. Although you might be able to obtain it if you requested it from the NFL.

And you STILL haven't told me who is going to make this magical PC NFL game.

Joseph said:

BTW, you want proof that there is a 'all major platforms' condition in the distribution clause of the EA/NFL agreement? Here's your proof:

Where's the N-GAGE game?

Where was the Mac game before Madden 08 (did they even end up releasing a Mac version)? They had the exclusive deal since Madden 06.

N-GAGE and Mac are two gaming platforms (the latter just barely). If EA are bound to release on all platforms, surely those two are covered, right? So where were those versions?

No where, that's where. So we can know for sure the agreement doesn't state ALL platforms that EA own the rights to are required for release, because at the very least a N-GAGE version would need to be made, right? And likely a Mac version before 08.

So therefore it is very safe to assume there is indeed a condition listing which platforms NEED to be released on, independant of the list stating which platforms EA own the rights for (i.e. all of em').

N-GAGE and Mac, say hello to your newest buddy PC. Nintendo DS will probably be joining you soon, and the PS2 not too long after that.

NFL Fan said:

Joseph, you are spot on & one of the few voices of reason in this thread.  It's about profit, if they can justify the development fees & make a profit, then they will produce the game, if not then they aren't going to do it.  How can an agreement bind a company to distribute a profit loser?   As previously stated here, the NFL just resigned that agreement until 2013.  Dropping a gaming platform is done all the time, why is this one so different?   The agreement would certainly cover a company/EA to have control over what platforms they are required to produce all based upon lagging sales, popularity or profit & loss.  Hold EA accountable for WHAT?  To pour shareholders dollars into a platform that doesn't pay for itself?  This arguement makes no sense, it's all about the almighty dollar, for EA & the NFL.  The NFL has made their money with the sale of the agreement, EA obviously makes their money on consoles.  Besides more babble, not much lest to say.

Erich said:

LOL, I know I hit a nerve now!  Re-Read all of my posts, ignore the flaming of peeps that are clueless to "standard business practices" and simply question the EXCLUSITIVITY.  Thats all.  Just question it over and over again on different forums.  Write the NFL and simply question it.  Dont rant like some of the idiot elements posting "childish" rants.

This is my opinion and that is the PC EXCLUSITIVITY and EA/Madden is over and I am basing this off of current actions, contract law and standard business practices.  Until proven otherwise, Joesph is full of $h!t.  We will all see people.  But remember, you heard it here first.

If enough people QUESTION the NFL about this I am sure it will do one of two things.  First action of choice, re-release a warmed-over LAME version of this $h!t that has been crammed down our throats for the past 3 years.  Or secondly, open negociations up with another developer(my guess is that it has already been done and because of this we are being smoked screened)  (maybe 2K?) for the PC market.  The reason is that the NFL has the right to royalties "ABOVE AND BEYOND" the license investment based off of UNITS SOLD.  Believe me, there are hooked noses caring for those "small" dollars.  

You watch, I bet I am right and if I am wrong, NP (no problem).  I, like many of you, will remember this and walk away questioning how STUPID the NFL is about allowing this to happen to an entire MARKET.  Additionally, I will probably stop subcribing to NFL crap and simply un-plug from this into something else out of sheer protest and never look back.  Maybe this is a sign for all of us to COMPLETELY turn our backs on the NFL and get a real life.   Dont you fellow PC gamers feel a bit stupid for supporting EA/NFL for so many years only to be maniplulated in purchasing a LAME CONSOLE system?  Here we sit gentlemen.  They are claiming to have made a decision and here you sit doing NOTHING.  I am telling you to write the NFL commisioner, players association and licensing departments to QUESTION if infact they are AWARE the entire PC market is going to be ignored and NO MONEY will trickle to the NFL in game ROYALTIES.  And, EA may have or is attempting to VIOLATE thier contract.

Same stuff over & over said:

Yawn

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" This is my opinion and that is the PC EXCLUSITIVITY and EA/Madden is over and I am basing this off of current actions, contract law and standard business practices.  Until proven otherwise, Joesph is full of $h!t.  We will all see people.  But remember, you heard it here first.  - You watch, I bet I am right ... , I am telling you to write the NFL commisioner, players association and licensing departments to QUESTION if infact they are AWARE the entire PC market is going to be ignored and NO MONEY will trickle to the NFL in game ROYALTIES.  And, EA may have or is attempting to VIOLATE thier contract."  Quote

Is this guy for real?

EA has no idea what they can & can't do with THEIR license, just scream violation over & over.   Turn our backs on the NFL because a game platform was dropped, Sell EA stock, EA is dumb as bricks, Joseph & anyone else that disagrees is full of $hit.   Waste your time guys, write the NFL commisioner and tell him a game platform was dropped.  LOL  

Seriously, this isn't the war in Iraq, terrorists, global warming , civil rights or animal abuse, all very worthy causes & reasons to write & protest to change.  Why not channel that passion for a real worthy cause bro?  This one is a 999,999,999th on the global importance chart.

One statement I agree with here:  " get a real life."

milesd said:

It's okay, peter. Just ignore them. They're just people with money, not important. Right?

cfield said:

I can't believe that EAsports will stab some of their loyal customers in the back by removing the pc game. I thought it was bad enough when they lost the MVP Baseball series. But MADDEN TOO????????

Jesus Mireles said:

So, if EA Games is too scared or challenged to deliver a PC version of one of PCs most popular games then let someone else do it?  Seriously why don't you allow other companies to produce and deliver a purely PC Madden or NFL type game.  With your exclusive rights license you hold a monopoly on this game.  

I will not buy a console and I will not buy another EA game period until Madden comes back or you guys allow other companies to release an NFL game.

I also ask that anyone reading this seriously consider a lawsuit against this company.  We may have a case here because of what they are doing to us in so many ways ....  We may want to look at this alternative and if anything comes out of it at least get rid of that silly license.

STRUTTDADDY said:

You want Madden 09 on the PC?  Head over to Football-freaks.com!  The GREAT PC Community is creating an 09 Mod for the game, with CORRECT UNIFORMS, UPDATED ROSTERS (which have ALWAYS been better than EA's), UPDATED STADIUMS, UPDATED PLAYER PICS, UPDATED PLAYBOOKS, IMPROVED GAMEPLAY, ETC.

The ONLY thing we can't upgrade is the graphic engine.  But WE can do everything else.

If EA is stopping the PC game, WE WILL keep it going (like we have the past 5 years).

Joseph said:

Erich, yes people should complain to the NFL. That we agree on. My point is simply this - the agreement could very, very easily have language that allows EA to drop the PC, this isn't a clear black and white violation and it isn't as simple as one law defining all agreements - stuff like this depend on the specific agreement itself. We don't know if the agreement requires PC to be covered - I'm guessing it doesn't myself.

As I said, where is the N-GAGE version? If EA are required to release on all platforms, then why aren't they required to release on N-GAGE? It's because, with DS and PSP already covered in the hand held, they have rightfully so taken the stance it isn't worth their time. The NFL MUST have agreed to this, so therefore the NFL have agreed that not EVERY platform EA own the rights for needs an NFL game. Who's to say the PC isn't just another one of these such platforms? Sales have made it a secondary platform for Madden, so I could definitely see the NFL agreeing on letting EA dump it, even if the true reason for struggling sales is the fact EA haven't made a good enough game to sell well.

And if the agreement has this language, there is nothing we can do because it's not illegal. If the NFL aren't keen in keeping PC alive - a platform that hosts a considerable International following as well due to its freedom of PAL region restrictions - then I guess that's their decision to make.

Joseph said:

Oh and Erich, I think you misunderstand the agreement's business model. The NFL don't earn royalties, they earn a flat fee for the exclusive license from EA. So from a sheer $ point of view, they don't care if Madden only sold 100 copies, they still get their $300M or whatever it is. Taking away PC certainly doesn't impact directly on the money the NFL take home from Madden, they've already been paid regardless of how well Madden sells and which markets it sells on. It may piss off a few people, but if EA - the most profit driven game company in the world - don't consider our money worthwhile, I doubt the NFL will care about a few annoyed fans, the vast majority of which will likely just buy the console game and move on. There were a LOT more people effected by the NFL Network syndication issues and they weren't all that active about fixing that. EA and the NFL were made for each other.

Madden Player said:

Peter Moore is making sure he doesn't lose his job by playing to his old position at  MICROSOFT, SONY and NINTENDO.  By making them money he looks like the savoy to the game console lords.  S *** the PC buyers who brought a PC for gaming.  Peter "Satan" Moore thank you for destroying what Pc gamers help built, which in fact was you JOB ya punk ***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I didn't say S***.  I said, KCUF the PC buyers who brought PC for gaming.  Peter "Satan" Moore thank you for destroying what Pc gamers help to build, which in fact was you JOB ya punk HCTIB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SSA TRAMS

Brandon said:

This is an outrage!!!!  The first John Madden Football was made on the PC. The first online experience was on the PC. A Large part of the sports gaming market enjoy playing from there PC's. People want to be able to do everything from there PC and that includes play madden.  I never though It would come this but, I will NEVER BUY AN EA GAME AGAIN AND ONCE YOUR CONTRACT RUNS OUT WITH NFL AND ANOTHER DEVELOPER (ESPN) MAKES THE GAME, YOUR MADDEN FRANCHISE WILL DO DOWN THE GUTTER.

Brandon said:

Madden has run its course, the game is stale. EA is going down hill SELL YOUR STOCK

WontBuyEAGames said:

My name should be enough to describle how  I feel dropping Madden for the PC.  I have bought madden for the PC for at least 15 years.  I  have and list of other games for the PC published or created by EA...to name a few

C&C series and  Red Alert (oh yes with the announcement I will not be buying the expansion for C&C or the newly announced Red Alert 3)

NFL Head Couch, Dune, NBA, NHL, MLB (Triple Play and MVP Baseball) ,FIFA, Battle Field, Need For Speed, Sims 2 (all expansion packs), half-life, harry porter series, lord of the rings 2 (battle for mid earth), Gettysburg, Lands of Lore, Harry Porter (Lego), Alpha Centauri, Jane's Combat (Fleet Commander and Figher Anthology), Monopoly and many more that I can't think of.

Oh yes I was planning to buy Crysis but I don't think so.

So over the years I have purchased a few games from the Company.  I hope they enjoy the support.  I will never buy a game from EA and if EA is brought by another company, I will not buy a game from that company.  

I would have to think twice about buying any game from EA if a decision is made to bring back Madden to the PC.

Me said:

Hey All

ok...fine, IF THEY STOP MADDEN ON PC I AM GOING TO 2K9!!!

FOR SURE. This is the slopiest decission ever made and will hit them back like a boomerang.

Downforce & Downforcer said:

EA Sports discontinued Nascar Thunder for the PC. Now Madden NFL for the PC. I wonder what John Madden thinks about your decison to discontinue his game for the PC.

WE SHOULD ALL SEND E-MAIL TO ABC TV/ JOHN MADDEN TO LET HIM KNOW HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THIS DECISION TO DISCONTINUE HIS GAME ON THE PC.

Shalandar said:

Just have to add my name to the tally. Electronic Arts, you study buisness demographics, right? Your shareholders and execs have taken the rudimentry buisness managment classes, right? As a professional, and an avid Madden fan for the last 5 years or so, this is a good sized mistake. Let me educate you. It's about customer service. When you lose a customer, the actual ratio is 1:8. In layman's terms, you're losing 8 customers for every 1 that leaves your buisness. See, here's how this works.

Say I decide to boycott Electronic Arts, (as I fully intend to do as a consumer, as is my right), there is your one customer gone. I play Madden, I play your Sims 2 line of games, and a few others. Now, none of those products will be bought in my home. That's me, my wife, my 2 kids, none of them. Well now, that just turned to 4 customers, gone. Then my sister in law, the one who got me hooked on Sims 2 to begin with, recieved a text message from me, along with her folks and her brother. All of which have agreed to boycott your products until you do right by the consumer. All this because, as I explained to them, you fought for, and obtained, exclusive rights to the NFL's electronic media. Then with out any sense of duty, you disregaurd the PC community without even releasing the rights to the liscence. Which, in my opinion, is bad form. So now your 4 customers become 8.

Now then, the sister, the brother, they have friends. Friends I know who would buy an EA product and have some in their home. You see the demographic growing? Let us not mention that my wife's parents and my own have had several kids. We are all family. We are all in buisness. We have discussed this at length. We are all boycotting EA until it comes to terms with the community. You will understand the meaning of customer service some day. Hopefully before it's too late.

I do not mean this as a threat, I attempt to enlighten you. Your decision was folly, and requires review. I would suggest, if you have no intention of releasing a Madden 09, do right by the people who pay your bills and release the rights to the Electronic Media if that's even possible.

You created your own duty. You asked to be the sole supporter of NFL fans who play via console/PC. Do your job, or let someone else do it. Your actions are cowardly and typical of a company who forgot who the consumer is. Think about it.

DeIVIoNtwc said:

how can you not make madden 09 for pc, how can you not make money on it... gezzz put madden 08 out with madeen 09 splash screen and box well still buy it, plz mr. moore is it fair that you have NFL righths but not takecare of your pc users. if you dont want to make pc ver then give pc portion of your NFL rights up so someone else can use it....

? said:

http://www.nfl.com/contact-us

tell the NFL what you think

Lombardi said:

oh yeah so canning the best playing and most realistic version of NFL football you just flat out can? ok. Really i dont get this at all to be honest.now granted ,the pc community has had to mod the game to actually make it work,but still......

.Honestly i hope Bioware is watching this(one of the best game developers,along with blizzard.Your recently *Ahem* aquired bioware i really cant wait to see what happends when someone from EA tells them, hey bioware you cant make a game for PC.LOL Honestly i hope bioware has clauses to get out of there deal with you.The real kicker is now you want me to Punish Boiware and not buy mass effect for PC i bet bioware will like this.Which btw will be super hard for me but i will do what I must.im a Bioware fan 300% really i hope bioware is watching these kinds of things.You have sunk good gaming developers before.

What i find really comical in all of this is theres still a psp and a ds version? yeah ok.wait bioware should stop all there pc games because of pirating ...LOL really... give me a break. And yes for the record i have purchased IE Bought every single madden i own not including other EA titles.

yeah so now im gonna go buy an xbox 360 just  to play 2009 madden ok...

I own every single madden and now i wont be able to continue this tradition.Really thanks I appreciate it.Honestly I do.

Ill just leave with http://football-freaks.com

wait PC community is dead http://football-freaks.com/forums/index.php?s=3986d57ba7b5371e64e17a3720a77a9a&showforum=308

You didnt put it in the game ,Football freaks will ,We will just go ahead and make 2009 ourselfs.

I really wish you would reconsider this there is still time you wont so, oh well saved me like hmm around 150 bucks of software i would have otherwise bought.

Lombardi

BigDaddyCool said:

I've started a petition to get EASports to reconsider their decision to not put out Madden for the PC. Although there have been some efforts in the past few days to begin modding Madden '08 over at football-freaks, we still need to convince EASports that there is a market for Madden for the PC. After all, I don't think we want them telling us that there is no market for Madden like they've been telling us that there's no market for NCAA Football for all these years, now do we?

Please visit the petition and sign it. It will be forwarded to Peter Moore on August 15th, 2008

www.ipetitions.com/.../Madden_for_PC

Guitardeth said:

What a bone head move Moore!!

I allways wondered why there was no ncaa football for pc, now i know.

Anyway, this has got to be the biggest slap in the face to the pc  market, and on april fools day at that!!  shame on you moore,  and the really sad thing about all this is, we know you're not going to let go of the license to another company so that we might have a licensed football game for the pc, cause if they made a great game it would scare you guys shitless!! then you would go out and buy them up and take away the game once again.

This company is getting way to big for it's pants and needs someone or some company to knock it back down, it's not right that one company can completely keep pc gamers from having a licensed product.

I'm so afraid that my beloved hockey game is next, i have OWNED every version of the NHL series, i'm a big hockey fan and switched over to playing on the pc because it was more realistic and more fun playing it on the pc,  it also had leagues that i could join, they are way better then what EA offers, i've been playing on the pc ever since and will not switch over to a console.

PLEASE DON'T TAKE OUR PC GAMES AWAY, I love my NHL on pc and these guys love their madden on it, way may be a small blip on your map, but we are the loudest and truest fans imo.

David said:

Bad bad move  EA

Erich said:

I hear all of you and again ask you to write Roger Goodell too.  I ask you to make sure your investent portfolio is WITHOUT Electronic Arts.  I ask you to write "Mars", IE Snickers, to inform them you plan on boycotting ANYONE advertising with EA.  I would also call Direct TV to let them know you will NO LONGER subscribe to Sunday Ticket due to this EXCLUSIVE agreement the NFL entered which is not fair for an entire market.  And, do just that.  Do not spend another penny on the NFL!!!!  Do not pay for Sunday Ticket!  Do not purchase ANYTHING that is licensed by the NFL due to them turning their back on the CUSTOMERS that built them.  Dont watch the NFL network!!!  STOP!!!!!  After a year the house will be clean.  Then and only then we will have people running these companies that appreciate our hard earned money that we invest in the NFL entertainment products.

People with Xboxes and PS3's will still buy the product.  I mean, the advertising will influence those that already own the console to waste their money.  Only a TRUE boycott by all of us that have been affected by this will work.  Please DO NOT buy a EA game EVER again!!!

Erich said:

Final post!  Is it me or does Peter look like that dude in a Monopoly Game in the jail?  Kinda weird eh?  What a goof!

Ray said:

Notice no comments on here at all from EA or Peter Moore. From this blog along it is clear that MANY people are not happy with EA's decision and this blog only represents some people. Ive seen the same reaction in many other blogs.  As per usual with EA, notbody has commented on our concerns, they would rather just ignore it, much like trying to get real technical help.

As someone mentioned,,my biggest complaint is that EA got exclusive rights, taking away all competition, then they take away the PC, meaning many football fans can no longer have access to a Licensed game unless the cough up $500 for a game system. Now thats not fair, and that is why I wont add anymore of my money to EA's coffers. Hopefully those that say they will stop buying games stick to it.

Mike from Cleveland said:

I've purchased EA games for as long as I can remember.  But this is the last straw for me.  Skipping out on Madden for PC?  

I know many PC gamers, and every single one of them is fed up with this game company for many reasons.  Every game turns out buggy, full of glitches, and ZERO customer support.

I'm done with all of your games, EA.  And there are more people than you think that feel the same way.

Fred said:

This is one of the dumbest things YOU (EA) has done, you just lost a long time EA PC gamer.

the Gatekeeper said:

I predicted on the EA Madden 08 PC blog that there would be no Madden 09. Someone give me a cookie.

Does anyone hear... said:

Charlie Browns teacher in these posts?  I have seen newborns cry less than this group!  Get into 2009, buy a console...

Good job gatekeeper, the handwriting has been there for 2 years for all to see.

Answer to your hearing! said:

Peter, grow a pair and answer this blog instead of hiding behind these phony names!  You cant because you dont have a pair.  gatekeeper..... LOL..... Little Napolean is a better fit you idiot.  You will see in the end when your EXCLUSIVE rights are GONE and your canned because of your oversight.  Oh yea!  Get worried because the wheels are in motion.  Maybe not in time to give the 09 community their PC game but just in time for you to deal with hard times, unemployement and the recession while you look for work.  I hope Sony and Microsoft created a good parachute for you.  Not for your sake but I am going for that too!

Sweetness said:

I was going to blow a gasket over EA's decison, then I went over to Football-Freaks.com.

Holy shiznit. Those guys are amazing, if they pull off their 2009 version, that 14.99 version of Madden 2008 will blow the doors off of anything EA could ever put out. They modify everything. Guys fix jerseys, update rosters frequently, update portraits, change stadiums, make just about every throwback and alternate jersey you can think of, come up with editors, sliders, and rating systems. It's like everything we want from EA but could never get. So long EA! We no longer have to put up with your yearly half-assed effort anymore.

Pythons80 said:

Scrapping Madden 09 for the PC is a terrible decision!

I was in the video game store a few months ago when i found madden 07 for PC on sale for 10 bucks.  I bought it and it has been my favorite past time ever since!  I then bought nfl 08 and was totally looking forward to nfl 09 until this...

I'll be honest with you, I didn't even like the NFL before I bought the game!  I was only interested in Canadian football.  Now that has changed, but probobly not for long.  I heard the CFL is trying to get a football game produced; I will buy that instead.

PS: I used to be an avid customer of your NHL titles until I (and everyone else I know who played them) realized you keep putting out basically the same game year in year out.  Sometimes you add some really cool features like the didi importer but then you take them away.  What's up with this!?

sabpeter105 said:

I'm very upset with the decision by ea not to have a pc version avalable for madden nfl 2009. Just when the game was getting closer and closer to a life like simulation of a real football game you decice to pull the plug on the pc version of the game. Some of us still have not bought or purchased an xbox or gaming console yet. The xbox and most of the gaming consoles still does not have the memory or ram in it like most of the pc selling on the market today so, this cause the game to run slower on the console version of the game. With no baseball games out there for the pc since your last release of mvp 2005. I wonder, if we are starting to see the death of pc gaming which would be a shame. Will there be no nhl 09 for the pc as well.

Crazyhorse said:

I have been playing Electronic Arts games since the early 80’s, Archon on my Atari 800 EA used to be a brand that stood for excellence. Now I hear that you are not releasing Madden 09 for the PC? I don’t know where you get the crack your smoking but I suggest you change dealers because your guy is cutting your stuff with draino or something worse. I have owned EVERY madden game since it came out on the genesis all those years ago, and I can’t believe how bad you guys have been shafting PC users over the last few years. I have both a PC and a 360, my 360 has not been turned on in a few months, that should let you know how good I think the 360 is compared to a PC for gaming. I have a high end gaming rig that will run circles around a PS3 or a 360 yet the game that you have been releasing for the PC are a joke compared to their consol counterparts. I look on my shelf and I see Madden, Tiger woods, NHL 07, NBA live, Nascar Sim Racing, MVP Baseball, Need For Speed, Sub Command, Battlefield 2. Many those like Madden, Tiger Woods, NHL Hockey I have been buying each year for 5 years or more. Now to be told that I am irrelevant and I am to be ignored,  I think I will be revaluating my position on buying ANY future EA titles.

Ray said:

Notice that Moore's blogs were pretty regular until this one...How come he has not posted any reaction to this blog or any comments whatsoeve, or even a new blogr? Would be nice to have some sort of response,,ie. clearly stating EA's issue in regards to PC game, not just the vague "serious financial isssues".

I really dont care either way because I know the guys at FootballFreaks will come up with something for PC users.

And for those who claim PC users do not buy their games..I have bought everygame I have ever owned, all these years..and thats alot of games.

Oscar the Great said:

Woof!

XRun and Sh00tX said:

Mr.Moore you and EA are garbage!!! You knew 2K was making a dent in your recycled Madden series, so you went after the excluisve license deal. You say the NFL came to EA which is total BS. EA lobbied for the license deal the previous two years!! I have not bought a EA title PERIOD of any genre untill this license deal bs is stopped.  You say the EA came to you but look what happen you have EVERY licensed football product signed as an exclusive. NCAA, Arena and the NFL!!

Its pathetic!!!

Now you took my favorite game away but now you are trying to make sure there is NO COMPETITION in any sport by trying to purchase Take Two!!!  

I hate EA with a passion and nothing will change that.

XRun and Sh00tX said:

All Pro Football 2K8 =For the Pure Sim Minded Football gamer. A learning curve too much for the average Madden Sheep to grasp.

Madden series=For the Commercially induced generation of gamers who buy it because of its the only NFL game in town and because its Arcade Trash that any kid with down syndrome can play with success.

EA will be the destruction of Quality Sports Gaming and must be stopped.

Don't buy Madden '09....Don't buy EA Sports Titles.  Stop the Monopoly that EA is trying to achieve.

Competition = Innovation

No Competition = Laziness(EA)

XRun and Sh00tX said:

All Pro Football 2K8 =For the Pure Sim Minded Football gamer. A learning curve too much for the average Madden Sheep to grasp.

Madden series=For the Commercially induced generation of gamers who buy it because of its the only NFL game in town and because its Arcade Trash that any kid with down syndrome can play with success.

EA will be the destruction of Quality Sports Gaming and must be stopped.

Don't buy Madden '09....Don't buy EA Sports Titles.  Stop the Monopoly that EA is trying to achieve.

Competition = Innovation

No Competition = Laziness(EA)

MaddenGod said:

This is crap. I have turned like 10 guys over from console to pc in the last 5 years and now they end it? The online leagues make this easily the best version of madden over all systems. I too woll boycot all EA products including BF and all sports games. Back to Counter-Strike from Valve.

Rob said:

 Major dumb ass decision by EA to not develop Madden for PC.   If you think that I or any PC gamer will buy a console madden version then you are dreaming !!!!   EA should be making ncaa football for PC too but I predict all sports games will be discontinued soon.   But EA you won't EVER get me to buy a console !!!!!!!  NEVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   I have $600 in my video card !!!!  Do you think i'm gonna waste time on a cheap PS3 or Xbox 360  ??  Not a chance !!!  

Erich said:

Amen Rob!  There is nothing a new set of brains couldnt cure for ole' EA.  So long as "monopoly jailbird" Peter is at the helm, nothing but STUPID decisions can be assured.

What a bunch of CRYBABIES said:

THIS ISN'T CHANGING - KEEP CRYING GIRLS!!!

SEND A LETTER TO CONGRESS!  SEND A LETTER TO THE NFL COMMISH!

NO ONE CARES EXCEPT YOU F-ING WOMEN THAQT A PLATFORM WAS DROPPED

NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR LEAGUES! SHUT UP YOU VAGINAS!

THE PC GAME IS GONE FOR 2009! - THIS IS NOT CHANGING!

GO TO FOOTBALL FREAKS, BUY THEIR WARMED OVER VERSION ON 2008 - LIKE LEAGUE PULSE!  ANOTHER FAN-F*CKING-TASTIC IDEA!

EA OWNS THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS - THEY ARE NOT GOING ANYPLACE!

THIS IS A GIRLY, CRYBABY FORUM!  EVERONE THAT POSTS HERE IS JUST WASTING THEIR TIME!   BUT CONTINUE TO DO SO GIRLS!!  

WRITE THOSE LETTERS!!  KEEP BITCHING!!  THAT'S ALL THAT HAPPENS IN MOST PC LEAGUES ANYWAYS!!  A BUNCH OF C*NTS CRYING & COMPLAINING!

raiders7 said:

humm... I think that's all has been resumed by CRYBABIES.. what can we add after his comments ?

His post is all in CAPS, with plenty of good point highlighted with good comments...

CRYBABIES, I suspect that you IQ is not higher than an oyster one as you cannot share your opinion without insulting everybody or using aggressive words.

Saying that, the best way to deal with people like you is simply to ignore you.

Later

Natxo said:

Let´s boycott EA games. I will never buy anything related to EA Games.

It´s funny that "What a bunch of CRYBABIES" says how girlie we are here and what a waste of our time is to write in this forum. I think YOU are wasting your time too and with no other reason than getting some attention that you probably do not have in your real life (it´s sad, I know, just keep trying and you will get a hug from one of us... yeah right!).

Delusion said:

No Madden for pc? I refuse to accept this. It's a nightmare.

XRun and Sh00tX said:

Madden =Kiddie Football.

2K Football=Football Sim

EA is attempting to dumb down every sports game on the market with their chicken *** exclusive license crusade.  

Stop EA Ports before its too late.

Don't buy Madden '09

Don't buy Any EA Ports title

Buy 2K Sports Titles

Buy Midway Sports

Buy Activision Sports

RODNELL SHEFFEY said:

AND ONE MORE THING FIX THE FRAME RATE ON THE PS3 VERSION OF NCAA AND MADDEN PLEASE

Quickfall said:

its not enough that ea ruined C&C now you guys screw up madden too.

A s $ Holes!

JimTheGreek said:

Dear EA,

You guys have really missed up this time. I have read and re-read all blogs on this no 2009 madden version. I REALLY HOPE you sir loose your last dime and your balls fall off and all your family members tell you to go and play with your *** cause you sir are one dumb son of a numb ass. I also hope you go out of bussness get put in jail and some big 350 pound man takes you and reams out your do do hole.

Vegas Ferguson said:

I am really upset with this decision, i read that its thought that alot of people have consoles so thats where the decision to get rid of the pc version came from. but im sure thier are others like me out their who do not have a console and rely on their computer that they've invested alot of money into and they cant see why being forced to buy an xbox360 or ps3 to play one game is worth it. I would like to thank EA Sports and all those other major cmopanies for not caring about the people that made you the company you are today in turn for  a few extra dollars in your pocket. i have bought every edition of madden that has ever come out, i have waited in lines to get my copy from the store , had copys reserved and paid for ahead of time. and now i will boycott this years copy this is how you treat a loyal customer that has been with you since day one, thankyou.

Edgar Allen Sportsipiwitz said:

Hey PC people.  Stop your bitching.  Nobody from EA is reading these posts.  They don't care.  So for your own sake, stop wasting your time.

Bill Murray said:

Pesronally this decision does not affect me YET.  I still use the PS2 console and have rarely used Madden for PC.  However, I am doubtful to upgrade consoles and when Madden stops coming out for PS2, I would have considered buying it for the PC.  I know I'm not the only one without the money to blow on a 360 or PS3 (I also have played Madden on Wii a little bit and was not a big fan to say the least, and if I upgrade consoles I have a feeling Wii is what I would end up getting), so going to PC would be a viable option.  I am in utter shock that Madden is being removed from PC, especially in an anniversary year (if that was the last Madden for PC that would be another thing as well).  I would have thought PS2 would go before PC.  I have never considered switching to online play for PS2, as I do not have the money to do so.  However, if I bought Madden for PC, I would seriously consider playing online.  This is horrible timing for a horrible business move, especially with the future looming with removing PS2 from the Madden list.  I've always supported EA games and still will continue to, however, this is a shocking move and one that will hinder my support in the future

TomEAcanSuckMyDickSmith said:

I will never buy EA anything ever again. Also if everybody working for them dies it would not make me sad. They all can go to Hell as far as I care. Thanks EA for dry humping us who made you rich buying your games for 20 years. If I where a rich man I would hire a computer hacker to send you guys 1 million vireses and hoped that your bussness explodteded. YOU GUYS ARE LOWER THAN MANGETS TO ME. HERE IS HOPING YOU MAKE NO MONEY FROM THIS DAY FOWARD AND THAT WHEN YOU DRIVE HOME ALL YOUR TIRES COME OFF YOUR CAR AND YOU RUN OFF THE ROAD AND CRASH AND NOBODY FINDS YOU FOR WEEKS AND YOU DIE SLOW DEATRH THINKING OF HOW YOU DRY SCREWED US. U BASTAREDS.

DonlickmypeholeJOHSON said:

WILL THE MADDEN 2008 GAME STILL BE UPDATED AND WILL WE BE ABLE TO PLAY ONLINE NEXT YEAR?

PattyBrownSmith said:

Will 08 game be online next year please.????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

TINA said:

Will 08 game be online next year please.????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

jACK said:

Will 08 game be online next year please.????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

Peter Moore said:

Dear EA Fans, I am so sorry we had to drop the PC version of your beloved game. To make it up to you guys I am having a party at my house this friday. BYOB and your favorite lub, cause i will be doing some more screwing of my fans at my celerbration. yehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!................................

Peter Moore said:

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NFL GUY said:

The NFL & EA Sports are partners.  It's not only an "exclusive" agreement, it's a partnership.

The PC game doesn't sell in large enough numbers & configuring the game for so many different PC's is the issure as opposed to cost vs profit.

The NFL is firmly behind EA in dropping the PC platform.  The sales dollars from PC sales are miniscule compared to console sales.  The NFL & EA sports is not here to support online PC leagues & memberships that are sold from them, webmasters that charge for PC league websites or anyone else that profits from the small percentage of PC platform sales.  This will not affect the NFL ratings or public NFL support at all.  Stadiums in most Cities are sold out,  New stadiums are being bult every year that are also sold out before the building are finished, Sattelite Sunday Ticket & Sirius radio numbers grow every day.  99% of the Madden buyers are console users.  To read some of the "boycott EA" posters here you would think the PC numbers for sales are the number 1 platform.  It's not, PSP sales far exceed PC platform sales & that is the weakest console/game system platform.  Bottom line gentlemen, the NFL fully supports EA & the decision to drop the game from the PC platform.  

Mahir Khan said:

Is Brett Farve going to be in the game.

Mahir Khan said:

Is Brett Farve going to be in the game.

Brad said:

Nice job EA - get the exclusive NFL license, then start cutting platforms?  What the F$&* ?

DO you REALLY sell more Madden for PSP than the PC ?

You guys suck....  I shelled out for this game every year, even when your "improvements" were tepid at best...   What is next?  Make Microsoft and Sony bid against each other to see who gets releases in 2010 XBOX or Playstation's various offerings?  And just to hell with everyone else?  I am beyond disappointed ........

gepsboys said:

I have owned every madden game made and hate to see it end .

The problem is all the cheating on-line has ran most of the players away.

I hate all the cheaters but it easports that won't do any thing about it.

Like band these guys for life it would only take playing a little while you would know who they are.

thxs ea

<T.N> said:

hello

Im new at this, but if u r open for suggestions. Think About some of this; the nfl is full of trades during the franchise season instead of having  the user do all the trading around the league have the cpu randomly post trades to the user, also i guss to make this work add the email from the Superstar to the franchise were it is flashing in front of u. I think that would be awesome plus it gives an advantage for other teams. Here is another weather i own a ps2 so i dont think any of this would work, but try, so weather if ur in Greenbay have it snowing alot so with more snow showing an increase on the ground. If this is not a good idea then this will be, people make mental mistakes, or to up ur game have the computer update ur strengths and weaknesses in the game against friends or cpu so the break down will show what the player will need to improve or what team will best suit that user in terms of style? so break down of the users weakness and the cpu telling u how to work on the weaknesses and improve on ur game. AND NO! NOT AFTER A GAME WERE IF U CANT RUN A HUNDRED YARDS!! more in depth!!!! ppl what u think about this???

Josh Tatman said:

This comment is soley towards "mr. scarface"(lame name by the way bro) trying to get others in the commmunity to delay or not buy the madden 09 just because they aren't making anything for the pc is childish...the pc is for business and guys who don't know spots and play dungeons and dragons and *** like that,  Madden is the best game on the market and if you are going to put any effort in delaying their sales of the game is just STUPID - grow up bro!!

OMG get over it said:

The PC game is gone for 09.

This is worse than the war in Iraq.

Worse than 9/11.

Worse than world hunger.

Worse than earthquakes.

Worse than animal abuse.

Put your efforts into something meaningful.  EA, the NFL & everyone else doesn't care about this.  There are much more meaningful issues to champion than the PC Madden game.  OMG what a bunch of pissing & moaning over NOTHING.

jne said:

lmao no madden for pc? what the fc are u planning lmao? hope no1 even buys madden next year so u will realize madden for pc is best platform lmao. that next gen is *** and should be destroyed. how bout u just fc those consoles and keep makin just pc. that would get u more money than some shitty consoles. gl hope ur finance drops this year

cechef said:

I AM A HARDCORE Gamer; I spend 600$ a month in games for my computer and i just bought a 3000$ gaming computer and right now I am ferious about u guys not making baseball football and god knows what else...I bought ea since u guys started making games...I even had the first gaming computer in the 80's....what the *&*** are we supposed to do now.....?

600 a month on PC games _ lol said:

cechef said:

April 27, 2008 3:42 PM

I AM A HARDCORE Gamer; I spend 600$ a month in games for my computer and i just bought a 3000$ gaming computer and right now I am ferious about u guys not making baseball football and god knows what else...I bought ea since u guys started making games...I even had the first gaming computer in the 80's....what the *&*** are we supposed to do now.....?

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600 dollars a month on PC games?????

Be real bro.

yea right - the whole post makes me ferious too lol

But a Wii thats what the *&*** you should do  lol

aguywithcommonsense said:

Pretty sure its a april fools joke guys. Come on

PCGuy said:

How come you xbox guys say the computer is not for games. I just built my second computer from the ground up just for gaming and lan partys. It takes a little knowledge to play Madden on the PC, MAYBE THAT IS WHY ea IS Scraping the PC version. Because there are to many dumb niggers who dont know how to reboot a compter much less play a game on it.

pc said:

How come you xbox guys say the computer is not for games. I just built my second compter from the ground up just for gaming and lan partys. It takes a little knowledge to play Madden on the PC, MAYBE THAT IS WHY ea IS Scraping the PC version. Because there are to many dumb niggers who dont know how to reboot a compter much less play a game on it.

S said:

EA is promoting the 20th anniversary of Madden but can you truly call it an anniversary without releasing it on the platform that it was started on, the PC? I have bought all of the versions that came out on PC and would love to buy the 09 , but EA doesn't seem to care about those of us who have supported the pc and would continue to do so. Maybe they will recondsider when this hits them were it hurts-in their profits. EA, please do not abandon the platform that started it all.

PC AfroAmerican said:

Hey PC

Nice racial talk - and can you spell computer??

Guys like you are the reason EA scrapped the PC version.  They don't want to be associated with guys like you.  And yes S, it's not about supporting YOU!  It's about dollars & cents.  The PC game doesn't support the R & D needed each year.  WTF do you guys not understand about that??  Obviously to make the PC game backawards compatible is not worth the effort involved as the game for $40 doesn't cover costs & end up making $$$.  Man o man what is so hard to understand"  "they deserted us & our league"  "EA doesn't care about the PC player"  "this has got to be a joke"   It isn't, it's about money boys, how much do they make when everything is factored in.  Obviously NOT ENOUGH.  This decision WILL NOT affect profits, it actually MAKES them money not to have to R & D for the many PC's out there w/ XP, Vista etc & many different graphic boards.  PC didn't start it all, Sega Genesis did.  What was Sega Genesis?  a CONSOLE!    WOW what a bunch...

PC GAMER said:

I only buy one game a year and this it. I guess I want be buying anything.

Keifer said:

To start with you console happy idiots go start your own theads you know nothing about a pc. You can built a great gaming pc for $400. And upgrade it for years for very little. I own a ps2 and an xbox 360 and madden on pc is way better. So is NBA live. And tiger woods is a joke on a console. Truth being people who buy gaming systems are to dumb to build a pc and probably afraid to use one. Any way back to the point Peter Moore should be drug to town square and dunk him in tar and then feather him. Taking away Madden is just the start of EA games to quit coming to pc. Peter Moore needs to get his head out of Bill Gates ass. Look how microsoft quit making games for pc when xbox came out. Bill Gates blames it on piracy which is a bunch of bull. Gates is a billionaire thanks to pc people and then screwed us. And as long as EA keeps buying up software companies us pc gamers will keep losing games as long as a person like Peter Moore is in charge. But give it a few years and gaming will come back to the pcs as usual.

Langx said:

I hope the home team gets to select there uniform. Then the visitor selects there's. So if the home team wants to wear white the road tema will wear there colors.

The Cowboys always wear there white uniforms at home. This feature used to be included in Madden. What happened.

Classic Uniforms would be nice to. Why do you always remove features that used to be in previous games.

If you play as the Boy's at home in 08 they wear blue. That's sacrilegious. Very Amateurish for EA to do that. What's next no hole in the roof of Texas Stadium.

Secondly please get rid of the dumb Woosh sound when a person is throwing deep.

To me that sound means Cheese coming. That may be ok for Tiger Woods but this is football. Get rid of it.

googleDUDE said:

I'm just a big ball of anger now!

googleLAD said:

Accutaly , now that's you're making silly moves, why don't you make like a fencing game, or bocce ball.

Bill Coley said:

I am late to this party, but I only now discovered at EA will not be releasing Madden '09 on the PC platform.  Since the PC is my Madden platform of choice, I am greatly irritated by the decision, but I can't say that it surprises me. Consoles dominate the video game market, and will until the PC industry adds enough value to the rigs necessary for high quality gaming experiences that consumers spend the extra money.

I am a Madden purchaser every year since the Sega Genesis era (circa 1992). This will be the first year I won't buy the game. Very sad.

Here we go said:

Keifer:

IOthers do know about PC's, I for one have built them & my first PC was an IBM footprint.  I also UNDERSTAND the future of gaming is CONSOLES due to only one configuration per console.  So to start name calling is always the way to get people to listen.  It's not about you upgrading YOUR PC dude.  It's about the profitability in the game for PC with the different configurations.  The graphics on next gen blow madden for PC away.  Most understand PC's quite well so your arrogance with console owners is unfounded.  Again bro, it's about how much money is made vs R & D.  But just keep on talking , telling us your opinions on Bill Gates & Peter Moore.  Keep insulting people, that always gets you where you wanna be huh?  Keep on posting w/o reading... it's what most that have posted here keep doing anyways.

Bill said:

Like a second death in the family in the same month As a GB fan 1st we lose Favre then I lose the next best thing Favre on the cover. A loyal buyer and recent full price buyer of Madden,.. Not anymore!

Shame on you

Phil said:

Nice one Peter! I recon you guys forgot all about those people that bought PC version every year and supported your franchise for the last decade. So, instead of PC version you offer lousy PSP and Wii??? Thats a nice aniversary present for your loyal fan core out there. You guys keep it up, first it was Baseball now Madden. If you think you can force people out there to buy lousy Xbox or PSP or Wii just to play their favorite game, you gotta be smoking crack and worshiping saitan. I'm sure financially, it's more profitable to make an exclusive arrangement with console manufacturers that probably forked over a large comission check to You for securing their exclusivity, as well as sales guarantee. However,imagine if one day all NFL game broadcasts become exclusively avaliable on sattelite tv,and if you have been watching NFL on regular tv or cable your SOL-what would that do to your appreciation and support of American Football?

PS. Just remember those folks,that over the years heleped transforming Madden into a formidable sports franchise, as you are cashing that paycheck from console manufacturers Mr.Douche!!!!!

Thomas said:

I have only played the Madden Football franchise on PC since 1998 and I guess loyalty in Mr. Moore ideal world is just a bunch of statistics and profit.

Noel said:

Well I guess I dont have to worry about buying any more of the *** EA puts out. The only game I bought each year at full price was Maddenn 39.99. I dont care how good any of their games are I will not run it on any system I own unless they change this stupid choice.

Keifer said:

Here We Go

Obviously you are blind or dont play Madden on a pc. How can you see Madden better on xbox 360. You must still be using your old footprint lol. But Moore said piracy killed the pc version which is bull. I know lots of people that pop a chip in the consoles and pirate games. So that is a poor excuse and get for real an old pc will run madden. You dont need 5 different madden games for pc lol. You must work for EA or just one of the console lovers butting your nose in acting like you know it all. I own madden 08 for xbox 360 and pc and pc is much smoother playing and looks better.

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Chris P said:

I have played madden pc since 2000 and have bought very version despite the many obvious  errors from 2001-2006. I live in Orlando and your company has quite a reputation of being a pretty crappy place to work despite how cool you would think it is. Anyways this doesnt suprise me at all we all thought you would have done it 2 years ago. Just glad 08 doesnt totally suck because apparenty its the last game Ill be buying from EA

been nice knowing ya

EA....its in the console

It's about MONEY_NOTHING ELSE said:

Keep crying girls - this isn't gonna change.

NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR LITTLE GIRL LEAGUES!!

It's the same 50 crybabies in every league, screaming cheese - posting here over & over under different names.  EA DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOU 50 or 100 WHINERS! - NEITHER DOES THE NFL!  

As for Keifer, it's ABOUT R & D DUDE!  EVERY YEAR TRYING TO SUPPORT 50 DIFFERENT PC CONFIGURATIONS!  It’s not about piracy, whether you think others understand computers, chips & consoles.  It's not about what YOU THINK LOOKS BETTER!  As for knowing it all, I would never claim to be as brilliant as you.  Anyone that cannot understand that EA doesn't SELL enough of the PC version to make it worth the $$$ put into it, certainly doesn't need any advice from anyone else.  

WHEN WILL YOU GUYS COMPHREND IT'S ABOUT THE ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR - NOT ABOUT HOW LONG YOU HAVE PLAYED MADDEN ON PC OR HOW DISAPPOINTED YOU ARE OR YOUR LEAGUES WITH THE SAME 50 GUYS THAT ARE IN MOST LEAGUES!  MONEY DRIVES THIS MARKET, IF EA IS MAKING IT ON A PLATFORM THEY WILL SELL IT, IF NOT THEY AREN'T GONNA.  The NFL understands this, EA understands this, Congress understands this, most business people understand this.  Just the guys posting here that are going on & on about THEIR disappointment seem to fail to grasp this.  $$$$$$$ is the deciding factor guys, NOTHING ELSE!

Steve said:

To it's about money,

I disagree with the name calling and anyone else here that name calls, posts things like "so and so sucks", it's about money's message is is kinda right although very much delivered wrong...lol = >

But this guy is right about the money part guys the PC version on Madden obviously doesn't generate enough revenue for EA to continue.  It's not actually about piracy (even though that does enter into it as it does take away from generated revenue), It's about how much money does EA get back each year with the investment on the PC version.  Everyone wants to scream & complain about EA dropping the PC platform on Madden & other sports games.  If they $$$ was there, the platforms wouldn't be dropped.  It's easy to call EA dumb (but they aren't if they drop something that doesn't make the money it needs to), finger point to Peter Moore or others within the decision making process but it's all about the dollars.  EA has partnership deals with the major sports leagues, these are not just agreements but profit partnerships.  If the production/profit dollar ratio is better on console games & PC platforms are profit losers, well it's not hard to figure out why the PC version has been dropped.  Since the announcement from EA to drop the PC version, this thread is full of many posts from "former EA supporters" & "EA boycotters" in reference to their "favorite" platform being dropped.  Well what about the shareholders & the people that are responsible for showing profit numbers.  Honestly, do you think they should support the "disappointed" PC gamer crowd but produce games/platforms that do not show profit?  Ask yourself. "Is that REALLY smart business?".  

I am a PC player also that has bought Madden on PC since 2001 every year and has never "stolen" it.  While I am not happy with EA's decision to drop the PC game, I certainly understand why they did.  It's all about the $$$ guys, not the "disappointed", the "unsupported", or we the "loyal" PC crowd. Money is what drives this market & every other market.  As sad as that is, it's reality.

Michael Vineyard said:

Why would you burn us PC gamers. I have played Madden for many many years and this is how you treat us? You promised after '08 we would see next gen graphics. I guess no graphics at all are the next gen 'eh? I have played the battlefield series and the medal of honor series as well as all of the sports titles. If madden is not released I will not purchase antoher EA title again. Not for the PC and definitely not for the consoles. You peaple need to pull your freakin heads outta yer butts and WAKE UP!!!! You will be losing millions upon millions of dollars doing this. I can not believe you are doing this to us YOUR cusotmers. INSANE i say INSANE

Tyrie Goodman said:

I think that when you create a player on madden 09 you should be able to put the face of the player that you created on the player screen. EXAMPLE- you know when you go to the player management screen as if your editing the roster.well you see the face of brett favre or donald driver you dont see the created players face on the screen.

Sad Customer said:

This is a sad day.

I buy Madden for the PC every year at midnight.  It was the best of the best in the PC gaming world, and really shined on a 10-foot screen.

Here's hoping some young, hungry company grows to fill this void.

Jared said:

Mr Moore,

By my calculations you owe me $600.00 becaues i'll be returning all of my EA NFL copies to you upon recipt of said payment.

It is the guys like me, the 20 year long players who BUILT easports for you.  I've seen/played 08 on PS3 and the Xbox 360, between the lag, fuzzy picture, and overall bad gameplay, the pc is still the best platform for your titles.  

If you insist that the PC version does not get created, you might as well stop development on ANY pc game as our community will not be supporting EA in any endevor.  Will this hurt you? no, i'm sure you have a cushy out clause after you ruin EA.  But rest assured, we will hurt your bottom line in sales, and NO we will not rush out to buy PS3's or Xbox's taht we don't want, Hense, your overall all numbers will decline, leading to your downfall.  Business decision? sure go ahead and quote numbers, but in the end WE are the consumer, and have been for 20 years.

Woudl you like my old copies intact? or shall I smash them into little pieces for you?

WTF said:

Seriously, EA makes a bunch of BS crap thats only for money, lets buy out the NFL franchise then stop publishing on a system we don't make any money on, bring 09 out on the PC you donkey licking whores

John from Canada said:

Firstly to the ignorant SOB's that bad nouthed Canadians....  *** YOU!!!  just because this idiot CEO is from here doesn't make us all the same.   Pres Bush is an ***, doesn't mean I think all americans are...

Secondly...EA just pretty much emptied my hard drive as of the 10 games I have installed, 8 are from EA in some way, all have been deleted or will be.  I love all the  sports games as i need my fix, even though they are console copies I still bought and played them every year since early 90's on the sega genesis, then on the pc for the last 14 yrs or so.  

I will alwaya be a PC gamer, just not a EA PC gamer anymore...   you werent making any money on the PC games???  stop porting them from a ps2 game, come up with a new graphics engine that utilizes the new pc technology and spend just as much on the PC versions in R&D, marketing and development, as you do on the Consoles and I bet you the PC games would outsell the consoles again, but no...that would be too easy  lets just piss off the PC community and ignore those that gave us our start,yes that will sell more.   I cant wait for the revenues to be posted and laugh when you quote the losses...

I have been contemplating buying a console anyways,  but it'll be any game thats not EA thats for sure... NHL2K9, MLB2K9, NBA2K9 whatever NFL2K9 game....see the pattern???

Funny how you wanted to buy them out and now you'll have to see a massive growth in their profits...

I really used to LOVE EA games, an would hype you up to everyone,  not anymore... this is a very sad day for this PC gamer...  Goodbye EA

Mav87th said:

Hi EA emplyes (if anyone of you bother to read this)

Today was sort of a strange day to me. I had not been keeping up with the release date of this years version of Madden, as i was deeply involved in designing plays for my second season in Madden 08's great Franchise option. Thanks to the guy's at Football-Fanatics its possible to get some pretty realistic databases and its possible to use your player created playbook with your team of choise.

So today i discovered that 09 was on the way out and prereleases orders could be submitted. So i went to the page, not able to find the PC version......researched a bit and huh...

Im very sorry our ways have to part here, its been a fun ride since God knows when. To me it hurts that i can't follow this football sim anymore, and the knife was twisted a little when my football hero through the same amount of years as Madden, Brett Favre, was to be on the cover of Madden 09 - I have to praise you for that - exelent choise. But that this version should be the first version i was NOT going to own is a blow to me.

Please rethink your decission.

SMOKE AND MIRRORS!!! said:

Do NOT let them fool you with the smoke and mirrors folks.  It is all about moving pc players to console gaming.  Step by Step, little by little and if you dont want them to succeed, AVOID ea at all costs no matter what!

they could have saved a tremendous amount of stress by merely offering a PC 09 off the current build with updated rosters and MINOR adjustments and the PC community could have lived with it in harmony.  But, instead, they chose to test the EXCLUSIVE boundaries and so far will probably get away with it because there are no other gaming manufactures with the wherewithall to challenge the PC market and the obligations they need to satisfy to make the NFL happy.  Dont worry thought EA, I see though this and I am making it a point to transcribe the truth in how corrupt you are with the likes of Microsoft and Sony.  BTW....  I am sure there is a pretty good flow of cash for this move Mr Moore.  Save it!  When EA gets flushed by the gaming community, remember that you did it.

Hari Seldon said:

I'm french and I BUY all madden on pc since 2002 !!

I find it scandalous that EA decides to private pc players to play Madden this year !!!

I would mean has EA that he is impenssable for me to played madden on console !

I ask to EA to change his decision  otherwise Good by EA !!!!

(sorry for the mistakes, my English is not verry good)

Nyran125 said:

Actually if sales are down on the recent madden titles, probably 2007 and 2008 because EA hasnt pushed the new Madden titles to Next-gen.+ EA isnt giving pc gamers any reason to upgrade thier madden games that they already have.Because there is no difference between 2003 up to 2008 on pc.

If you dont want to upgrade pc gamers to next gen madden..Y would you think that we would want to upgrade to madden 2008 when it is no different to 2007, 2006, 2005,2004,2003.

You havent really pushed the pc title so nobody has seen any real reason to upgrade to 2008.I have madden 2006 and im quite happy with that version.I dont need another 1 UNLESS its NEXT-GENERATION.

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wwo said:

do you have any plans to hire humans with an IQ over 90 and at least a passing (no pun) familiarity with professional american football?  just curious since you have the exclusive license it'd be nice if you put the NFL "in the game" instead of just as a logo on the box.  thanks!

Eli said:

Hi Peter,

  I can't help hoping you'll take the time to read this comment, although realistically, I doubt it will happen. I've left several other postings in the PC section of the forums.  To be certain, the announcement that there is no Madden for PC has caused me to become more active on internet forums than I ever imagined I would be--which means I've now left, maybe, five posts.  In other words, posting online to voice my opinion is not my usual M.O.  However, again, this issue has me quite upset.

  With the announcement of Madden's new cover guy, I began to get excited for this year's Madden, in particular, the inclusion of Head Coach in the 20th Anniversary boxes.  It took me a long time to realize that the decision not to release a PC version had also been announced.  As far as I can tell, of the major gaming sites, only IGN has an article about it.  Even the EA site is surprisingly bereft of news about this.  Nonetheless, I eventually did enough reading into the subject to confirm this, as well as discover the reasons behind the decision, as well as the feelings of the more active online bloggers and commentators.

   I won't pretend to have the business expertise that someone in your position must have, nor do I doubt you have it.  Furthermore, I have no figures on the cost of producing a game, or the revenues from PC sales of Madden, or PC sales in general.  I base the rest of this on anecdotal claims, specifically, personal anecdotes.  I begrudgingly admit that if you, or EA in general, could rebut the following with real numerical data, I would be much more willing to accept this decision.

   I am the "ten-foot" gamer you described earlier.  I enjoy kicking back and goofing around casually on games.  I'm also a PC-only gamer.  I need a PC for school (I'm a grad student), and eventually, presumably, I'll need one for work too.  Rather than buy a PC, a quality television, and an expensive gaming console, I found it more cost effective to simply buy a slightly higher-performance PC, not a top-end model, mind you, but one that could keep up with the PC games.  I know several others who have done the same essentially, and for the same reasons.  The point being, there are "ten-foot" gamers for the PC.

    That being said, I'll openly admit, PC use is more known for gamers who are into the MMO's or very in-depth gameplay (neither of which I find appealing at all).  Of course, PC's are more suited to these types of games than consoles.  Even so, distinctions between the various platforms are becoming less defined.  For example, the Halo series is popular for online games, Civilization, an in-depth PC game, is releasing a version for the consoles, and Fable 2 is currently only slated for XBox 360, despite its appearance as a very in-depth RPG.   By contrast Spore (a game I am very eagerly awaiting--and praying EA doesn't over-commercialize) has a game which is unique  in combining online elements while allowing a very simple single-player gaming experience that allows for a much more casual gaming experience.

   Again, I don't have any numbers at my disposal, and I don't mean to insinuate that you or others would make major decisions without consulting the books, but it is easy to fall into the trap of believing that the PC is exclusively the realm of the WoW-type crowd.  These hyper-gamers are the ones who receive the attention, and often (as the Madden forums demonstrate) demand the attention.  But not every PC gamer spends so much time with their games or gaming communities.  I simply hope that in defining the typical PC gamer EA has done the research to confirm that the market is defined by these gamers, and not simply assumed that the loudest community is the biggest (see the U.S. Government for how dangerous that assumption is).  

  Moreover, particularly as a leader in games, I hope that you are aware that claims like these can become self-fulfilling prophecies.  If EA, and other companies only release certain types of games for the PC, than the PC, will only be for those types of games.  Beware of the tail wagging the dog, you will lose customers that way.  Again, using myself anecdotally, I am less likely to buy the type of games you seem to indicate will become the staple of the PC market than I would the games that you indicate are no longer viable on the PC.  Similarly, as it has been mentioned in pretty much every blog or forum I've seen, many PC users indicate their decision to discontinue regular purchases is a result of inferior games as compared to their console counterparts.  I think there is some validity to that, even though I am generally satisfied with games.  Madden, in particular, although I regularly find myself thinking, "I wish they had done ....", I enjoy the game greatly.  NHL 08 is a better example of the PC gamers gripes.  I typically only update that game every couple of years as the gameplay is so similar year-to-year.  However, when I read about the features being offered for the most recent rendition--playmaking, and training--I decided to splurge.  Woe was me when I found the PC version had none of these.  In fact, the PC version couldn't even handle the simple arithmetic of finances in the Dynasty Mode.  This disparity is a huge turn-off.

    This being said, I admit there are challenges to the PC market.  Surprisingly, the one I would have pegged first, you didn't mention at all--namely the vast differences in performance of various machines.  No doubt it is a difficult balance when designing a game between a high-performance game, and a game that can run on lower-performance PC's.  This is a challenge that console game programmers do not have to face.  I don't have a suggestion for how to resolve this--only a comment:  It was pointed out to me in a CS101 course in college...which I failed 3 times (programing is not my thing)....that programmers have become lazy with the vast amount of memory available to them, a concept that was echoed by Will Wright when he described the innovation behind his programming for Spore.   The essence of the argument seems to be that PC codes and games could be much more streamlined with some creativity.  This might allow for a better balance--at least one can hope.

   I understand the PC market is also shrinking.  A few cautionary things there:  1) I go back to my tail wagging the dog example....PC companies have released more titles for the "intense" gaming crowd, and less for the "casual" crowd.  Maybe they need to go the other way.  2)  I'm willing to bet this is a cyclical thing--that there is a drop off in PC game sales for the first few years following the release of next-gen gaming consoles, but in the end, I bet, and I'm willing to bet history shows, that PC game sales rise back up.  3) "Good" PC games have gotten much more expensive -- it used to be that a good PC game was significantly less than their console counterparts.  Today the popular PC games go for $50 or over.  This also dissuades the casual PC gamer who may be willing to shell out a few bucks for the game they'll play from time to time, but not all the time.  I, for one, can confirm that this has had an effect on my PC purchases.  Whether games can be sold more cheaply with expectations of profits, I do not know, but it would not surprise me.  4) Finally, I get to the issue you highlight:  piracy.  I won't say much on this topic.  Most of the online community believes piracy is a scapegoat.  I simply don't know, but I do find it difficult to believe that EA truly can not find a way to combat this phenomenon short of cutting off the PC community.

   Finally, I simply wish to offer a word of warning.  I've been playing PC games since Carmen Sandiego and Oregon Trail.  I've seen EA grow into the powerhouse it is today.  But there are problems with big, powerful companies.  It has been my experience that these companies often find with larger size there is more of a disconnect between the services that the companies offers, and the business management side of the company.  When this happens, things often go poorly.  Management becomes more concerned with profit-maximization and pleasing shareholders than with appealing to the base that built the company up.  From there it is a long and slow demise--the large market share, excess capital reserves, and huge investor base will keep them afloat, sometimes as long as a full generation, but in the end, when they abandon the model for success for the model for money, bad things happen.  I believe this may be happening with EA.  I don't know whether you are concerned about this....no doubt even if it is occuring, you will be good and retired, with a generous pension before EA gets anywhere near real difficulty.  And if that suits you, who am I to blame.  But if you do care about the company, and about the gamer, than go back.  Look at how EA became so popular.  Look at the staple games, and make the decisions that will make the gamers happy, not the investors richer.

Rodger said:

At least put out roster updates that would be the least EA could do for us loyal fans who have bought Madden since Day1.

Rodger said:

It was also a real slap in the face getting an email (after announced no Madden for PC) valued customer be the first to see whos on the cover. Why would we want to see that?? Your registration I fill out ever year Knows that Im a pc games only.

Paul said:

I could make an in depth and intelligent statement, but what's the point.  Rot in hell.  

bob said:

pleeze try to add newwardrobe to madden, u know, tthe towel, hehand warmers ECT. thats all madden is missing visually remember:"if its in the game......"

BOB said:

is ss mode getting any other upgrades?

ricks66gs said:

I can only wonder what John Madden thinks about this decision.  The NFL let us down by signing with these clowns at EA.  From a consumer viewpoint, EA tried hard in the past because they had competition, now that they bought the rights, they can just continue to make buggy console crap that people stop playing in weeks.  To think I bought a madden 07 for my PS3 only to play it 1x and find it was a terrible product and continued to play the pc version to this day.  I play the PC because the pc works better, is smarter with AI and the competition is better.  If you think I want to sit on easo and play people who abuse glitches and run the same play over and over, you at EA have lost your mind.

What a farce is EA.  I can only hope that they put real NFL fans into their development team who realize the size of the PC market and the purchasing power we have.  Until a PC version is announced, I have made the decision that no games will be bought from EA.  I spend probably 500 a year in PC and PS3 games, but they have lost my buying power and support.  I can't believe someone from Canada is representing America's Game.  Shame on you EA.